From Zonophone2006 at aol.com Sun Feb 1 02:59:41 2009 From: Zonophone2006 at aol.com (Zonophone2006@aol.com) Date: Sun Feb 1 03:00:03 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] hello all Message-ID: here is a friend of mines comment on a new move by ebay any one else care to comment """"""This is simply the text (below, in blue) of a quick message I sent to eBay on their "Contact Us" website option. Earlier today I spent a half-hour on-line with an eBay helper person, trying to get an answer to my question. It took "Vickie" almost 30 minutes to verify that the problem could not be resolved. Now I am sharing this info with friends who use eBay. I was disappointed to learn that a useful feature has been eliminated. When watching or bidding on items, there were formerly several buttons from which to choose, including "delete from list" or "compare" or "add a note." I used the comment button to add my thoughts, like whether I was sniping the item; my maximum potential bid; real name and past satisfsaction of/with the seller; suggested value of a specific record in guide books; recent sale prices of a similar item; whether I already own 1 or more examples; person or friend who has been seeking this item; errors or omissions in the seller's description; etc. Just another unfortunate move by eBay. I am not surprised that their revenue and user satisfasction are both declining. """"""" **************Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1217883258x1201191827/aol?redir=http://www.dell.com/co ntent/products/features.aspx/laptops_great_deals?c=us%26cs=19%26l=en%26s=d hs%26~ck=anavml) From bwalter at machlink.com Sun Feb 1 06:50:38 2009 From: bwalter at machlink.com (Brian Walter) Date: Sun Feb 1 06:59:54 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] [SPAM] Question To Post Message-ID: "Little Dancer" Just recently obtained a German Bing "Little Dancer" phonograph. I have searched the web for information, but found very little.Is there any information out there where I am not looking. One picture in the last Fabrizio-Paul book. The reproducer on this one seems wrong. It has a nickel plated cover where the rest of the phonograph is painted. Would like to see an original. Also, what would be the best way to clean the paint from smoke and dirt? Thanks, Brian Walter, Muscatine, Iowa From abefeder1 at gmail.com Sun Feb 1 12:32:42 2009 From: abefeder1 at gmail.com (Abe Feder) Date: Sun Feb 1 12:32:53 2009 Subject: [SPAM] [Phono-L] [SPAM] Question To Post In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4e885f140902011232s3e9b7daev2d3d21490a2fb03@mail.gmail.com> Hi Brian, I do art restration for a living and use many different types of chemicals to clean smoke and dirt from paint. I would start with Kotton Cleanser -but do not use paper towels, rags or steel wool-use cotton balls. put some on a cotton ball and use a circular motion. do not try to clean every bit on the first pass. Do the entire item then wipe down with mineral spirts.Let dry and repeat. If this does not clean it up in the manner you are looking for let me know. Abe Feder On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Brian Walter wrote: > "Little Dancer" > Just recently obtained a German Bing "Little Dancer" phonograph. I have > searched the web for information, but found very little.Is there any > information out there where I am not looking. One picture in the last > Fabrizio-Paul book. The reproducer on this one seems wrong. It has a nickel > plated cover where the rest of the phonograph is painted. Would like to see > an original. Also, what would be the best way to clean the paint from smoke > and dirt? > Thanks, > Brian Walter, Muscatine, Iowa > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > From jancur at comcast.net Sun Feb 1 19:29:15 2009 From: jancur at comcast.net (jancur@comcast.net) Date: Sun Feb 1 19:30:27 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Victrola XVI cabinet - Craigslist Near Seattle, WA Message-ID: <20090202032916.87961164F8F@mail.intellitechcomputing.com> I just was this on craigslist. Just in case someone is interested (it is not mine). http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/fuo/1016541709.html John Curry 5702 Parkview Lane Everett, WA 98203 From barry at barrykasindorf.com Mon Feb 2 07:26:06 2009 From: barry at barrykasindorf.com (Barry Kasindorf) Date: Mon Feb 2 08:26:30 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] [Fwd: Re: Phonograph collector needs help] Message-ID: <4987108E.4010908@barrykasindorf.com> Maybe someone in the Fla area can help this gentleman. -Barry -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Phonograph collector needs help Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 18:07:19 -0800 (PST) From: buck Buchanan Reply-To: ret.armysgt@yahoo.com To: Barry Kasindorf Barry, I just got my computer working again and I am still working out some of the bugs. I am sorry I did not respond earlier. Because of the injuries I have I like to stay busy, this way I am hopping I won't have to take as many pain pills. I don't mind spending a little money if it means that I can reduce the amount of pills I take. I don't know if you have ever been in a situation like mine but being drugged up all the time is not much of a life. I have had two units mailed to me one large and heavy portable which cost about $30.00, and a tall Edison which I had found part by part this one if you add it up was costly becuase I had so many boxes that I had to pay for shipping on. I don't think the table tops would be that expense if they have an external horn there will be possibly two boxes. My address is Bill Buchanan 11 Alabama Road South Lehigh Acres, Fl 33936 Let me know what you find out about the shipping. I would like to thank you for any help that you may be able to give me. Your Friend Bill --- On *Sun, 2/1/09, Barry Kasindorf //* wrote: From: Barry Kasindorf Subject: Re: Phonograph collector needs help To: ret.armysgt@yahoo.com Date: Sunday, February 1, 2009, 10:33 AM Hi, I need to know where you are located, so I can talk to someone nearby who can help. I do have junk machines that are good projects but adding in the postage may not make it affordable anymore. -Barry buck Buchanan wrote: > Barry, > > I hope you don't mind me writing you. > I was speaking with Merle Sprinzen (msprinzen@juno.com), and he > suggested that I get in contact with you. > I am a disabled vet, I am current looking for a project machine (wind-up > phonograph type) to keep busy. I have turned to records and phonographs > as a way to deal with the pain of my injuries. Merle thought you might > have a source or knew of where I would be able to locate something > really cheap because the VA pays me very little and I have to support my > family on with they pay me and this leaves nothing for any thing else. > > If Merle was mistaken, I would like to apologize for disturbing you. > > Thank you > > Bill Buchanan > > From ClockworkHome at aol.com Mon Feb 2 13:17:40 2009 From: ClockworkHome at aol.com (ClockworkHome@aol.com) Date: Mon Feb 2 13:23:22 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Re: Maroon Gem motor needed Message-ID: Currently there is an Amberola X mechanism on eBay. The X used the Gem motor until the Fireside works were introduced as the DX. Exactly how close a match between the two machines is something you might gamble on if the motor is going with an economical bid. Best Wishes, Al **************Stay up to date on the latest news - from sports scores to stocks and so much more. (http://aol.com?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000022) From victrola at triton.net Mon Feb 2 16:13:11 2009 From: victrola at triton.net (George) Date: Mon Feb 2 16:21:34 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Re: Maroon Gem motor needed References: Message-ID: The X used a modified Gem motor. The 2 do not interchange. George ----- Original Message ----- From: ClockworkHome@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:17 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Re: Maroon Gem motor needed Currently there is an Amberola X mechanism on eBay. The X used the Gem motor until the Fireside works were introduced as the DX. Exactly how close a match between the two machines is something you might gamble on if the motor is going with an economical bid. Best Wishes, Al **************Stay up to date on the latest news - from sports scores to stocks and so much more. (http://aol.com?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000022) _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From rcowen at sciencenews.org Mon Feb 2 17:40:05 2009 From: rcowen at sciencenews.org (rcowen@sciencenews.org) Date: Mon Feb 2 17:49:13 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Re: Maroon Gem motor needed Message-ID: <1387446953-1233625159-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-18431813-@bxe152.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> ------Original Message------ From: George Sender: phono-l-bounces@oldcrank.org To: Antique Phonograph List ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Feb 2, 2009 7:13 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Re: Maroon Gem motor needed The X used a modified Gem motor. The 2 do not interchange. George ----- Original Message ----- From: ClockworkHome@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:17 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Re: Maroon Gem motor needed Currently there is an Amberola X mechanism on eBay. The X used the Gem motor until the Fireside works were introduced as the DX. Exactly how close a match between the two machines is something you might gamble on if the motor is going with an economical bid. Best Wishes, Al **************Stay up to date on the latest news - from sports scores to stocks and so much more. (http://aol.com?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000022) _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From talk78s.settlemier at sbcglobal.net Mon Feb 2 21:01:27 2009 From: talk78s.settlemier at sbcglobal.net (Tyrone Settlemier) Date: Mon Feb 2 21:06:57 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Change of Address - Online Discographical Project Message-ID: <00f101c985bc$791c1840$210110ac@DISCOGRAPHY> Normally I don't write to the list when I update the Online Discographical Project, but I wanted to let folks know that I'm changing the URL of the site. Previously the site was hosted (in Bulgaria) at http://settlet.fateback.com The site is now hosted at http://www.78discography.com Please update your bookmarks. Also, if you have a web site linking to my page, please update the URL. (and yes, perhaps that will get me off my duff and I'll update my own links page, which is severely overdue for an update) And since I'm bothering y'all anyways, I've added the Freedom 1500 Rhythm and Blues series, the King 5000 series (78-era), the 1940s King Jazz label, and the Victor 89000 red seal series. Plus there's hundreds of updates spread accounting for 86 separate revised files. Email me off list if you want to be added to the distribution list that recieves the details of the updates. Warning: It's a rather large email every month. All the best, Tyrone From ret.armysgt at yahoo.com Mon Feb 2 22:36:54 2009 From: ret.armysgt at yahoo.com (buck Buchanan) Date: Mon Feb 2 22:36:59 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Project Phonograph wanted by Disabled Veteran Message-ID: <624835.26412.qm@web57503.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Disabled Veteran is currently looking for a project phonograph. Do you have a wind-up phonograph that you no longer want or that is in need of repair? A wind-up phonograph player that you want to get rid of?? I have turned to working on these in a way to help me deal with the pain of my injuries. The VA pays me very little to support my family with so I do not have much money. If you don't have one perhaps you know of somebody that is looking to get rid of such a player would you please give them my email address. My email is ret.armysgt@yahoo.com ? Thank you From andy at popyrus.com Tue Feb 3 16:05:57 2009 From: andy at popyrus.com (Andrew Baron) Date: Tue Feb 3 16:06:08 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Re: checking in In-Reply-To: <1200ad05.7eec.4f8b.bc99.d751a4a65cbf@aol.com> References: <1200ad05.7eec.4f8b.bc99.d751a4a65cbf@aol.com> Message-ID: <0FAD1700-0BCB-486E-938F-5F0569CA4E2C@popyrus.com> Hi Beth and thanks for checking in. I've been in the thick of a deadline design & production pop-up card job, and haven't had a moment. Thanks for this reminder about the outline. I know you need it in advance and will get it to you not later than February 15 (the end date for my current deadline). If you need it sooner, please let me know and I'll move it up in priority. I would love to join for the lunch. There's always more information than time to share it, and this opportunity should be nice for us all. Please note a small change in my travel plans; getting in about a half hour later than originally planned: UA7650 30MAR DEPARTS CHICAGO OHARE AT 614P ARRIVES WESTCHESTER CNTY AT 923P OPERATED BY /UNITED EXPRESS/SHUTTLE AMERICA Feel free to call me at 505-986-9182 or 505-982-2204, or email as you wish. I'm copying this email back to myself as a prompt to get that outline to you. All Best, Andy On Feb 3, 2009, at 9:01 AM, Dr BAP83 wrote: > Hi Andy, > I hope you are doing well. I just wanted to quickly check in with > you with an update. I have almost finished scheduling our middle > school visits. I have also asked if one of the high schools would > like to host a small lunch for us at their restaurant. (our high > schools each have a small, cute restaurant run by students). They > said they would love to do that. How does that sound to you? It > would be for about an hour during our lunch break, and I thought you > might enjoy meeting a few teachers and students at the high school > level (maybe art or tech ed students). > Let me know if this sounds good to you, and please send me whatever > kind of outline you have for your presentation whenever you have it, > so I can send it onto teachers. > Thank you so much! Here in (snowy) Fairfield we are all very > excited for your visit! > Beth Posner > From john9ten at pacbell.net Tue Feb 3 22:16:18 2009 From: john9ten at pacbell.net (john robles) Date: Tue Feb 3 22:16:22 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Screws needed Message-ID: <334017.82516.qm@web83006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello all I am in desperate need of a set of four screws for an Edison Trimph shaving device. I know these will be hard to get. Failing tha, does anyone know the thread on those so I can perhaps ge someting temporary til I do find the screws? I would appreciat it very much! Thanks John From lherault at bu.edu Wed Feb 4 06:12:04 2009 From: lherault at bu.edu (Ron L) Date: Wed Feb 4 06:23:11 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Screws needed In-Reply-To: <334017.82516.qm@web83006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <334017.82516.qm@web83006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002201c986d2$8e548e10$53d6299b@ad.bu.edu> If no one comes forward, John, and I'll bet George Vollema can help, take the shaver to an industrial mill supply store. They will have all manner of set screws from the minute to the massive, and should be able to find something to fit. I don't think Tom bothered to re-invent the screw so they should be a more or less standard thread and diameter. Finding out which standard will be the trick. 8-) Ron L -----Original Message----- From: phono-l-bounces@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of john robles Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 1:16 AM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Screws needed Hello all I am in desperate need of a set of four screws for an Edison Trimph shaving device. I know these will be hard to get. Failing tha, does anyone know the thread on those so I can perhaps ge someting temporary til I do find the screws? I would appreciat it very much! Thanks John _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From john9ten at pacbell.net Wed Feb 4 07:02:00 2009 From: john9ten at pacbell.net (john robles) Date: Wed Feb 4 07:02:07 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Screws needed In-Reply-To: <002201c986d2$8e548e10$53d6299b@ad.bu.edu> Message-ID: <297626.63300.qm@web83003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Ron I went to George first, as I usually do! He had a shaver, but no screws separately. I have a feeling they are going to be hard to find... Thanks John --- On Wed, 2/4/09, Ron L wrote: > From: Ron L > Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Screws needed > To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" > Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 6:12 AM > If no one comes forward, John, and I'll bet George > Vollema can help, take > the shaver to an industrial mill supply store. They will > have all manner of > set screws from the minute to the massive, and should be > able to find > something to fit. I don't think Tom bothered to > re-invent the screw so they > should be a more or less standard thread and diameter. > Finding out which > standard will be the trick. 8-) > > Ron L > > -----Original Message----- > From: phono-l-bounces@oldcrank.org > [mailto:phono-l-bounces@oldcrank.org] On > Behalf Of john robles > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 1:16 AM > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: [Phono-L] Screws needed > > Hello all > I am in desperate need of a set of four screws for an > Edison Trimph shaving > device. I know these will be hard to get. Failing tha, does > anyone know the > thread on those so I can perhaps ge someting temporary til > I do find the > screws? > I would appreciat it very much! > Thanks > John > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From lherault at bu.edu Wed Feb 4 08:05:02 2009 From: lherault at bu.edu (Ron L) Date: Wed Feb 4 08:05:21 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Screws needed In-Reply-To: <297626.63300.qm@web83003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <002201c986d2$8e548e10$53d6299b@ad.bu.edu> <297626.63300.qm@web83003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004301c986e2$5683d120$53d6299b@ad.bu.edu> Maybe George has the time to take one of the screws out and take a picture. With that in hand, the Mill Supply store may be able to help. APSCO and Wyatt's are, of course, other choices for the screws. Ron L -----Original Message----- From: phono-l-bounces@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of john robles Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:02 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Screws needed Hi Ron I went to George first, as I usually do! He had a shaver, but no screws separately. I have a feeling they are going to be hard to find... Thanks John --- On Wed, 2/4/09, Ron L wrote: > From: Ron L > Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Screws needed > To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" > Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 6:12 AM > If no one comes forward, John, and I'll bet George > Vollema can help, take > the shaver to an industrial mill supply store. They will > have all manner of > set screws from the minute to the massive, and should be > able to find > something to fit. I don't think Tom bothered to > re-invent the screw so they > should be a more or less standard thread and diameter. > Finding out which > standard will be the trick. 8-) > > Ron L > > -----Original Message----- > From: phono-l-bounces@oldcrank.org > [mailto:phono-l-bounces@oldcrank.org] On > Behalf Of john robles > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 1:16 AM > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: [Phono-L] Screws needed > > Hello all > I am in desperate need of a set of four screws for an > Edison Trimph shaving > device. I know these will be hard to get. Failing tha, does > anyone know the > thread on those so I can perhaps ge someting temporary til > I do find the > screws? > I would appreciat it very much! > Thanks > John > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From john9ten at pacbell.net Wed Feb 4 09:15:54 2009 From: john9ten at pacbell.net (john9ten@pacbell.net) Date: Wed Feb 4 09:22:36 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Screws needed In-Reply-To: <004301c986e2$5683d120$53d6299b@ad.bu.edu> References: <002201c986d2$8e548e10$53d6299b@ad.bu.edu><297626.63300.qm@web83003.mail.mud.yahoo.com><004301c986e2$5683d120$53d6299b@ad.bu.edu> Message-ID: <519902760-1233767749-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-516319631-@bxe262.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Duh, I didn't even try Wyatt's! Thanks! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: "Ron L" Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 11:05:02 To: 'Antique Phonograph List' Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Screws needed Maybe George has the time to take one of the screws out and take a picture. With that in hand, the Mill Supply store may be able to help. APSCO and Wyatt's are, of course, other choices for the screws. Ron L -----Original Message----- From: phono-l-bounces@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of john robles Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:02 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Screws needed Hi Ron I went to George first, as I usually do! He had a shaver, but no screws separately. I have a feeling they are going to be hard to find... Thanks John --- On Wed, 2/4/09, Ron L wrote: > From: Ron L > Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Screws needed > To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" > Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 6:12 AM > If no one comes forward, John, and I'll bet George > Vollema can help, take > the shaver to an industrial mill supply store. They will > have all manner of > set screws from the minute to the massive, and should be > able to find > something to fit. I don't think Tom bothered to > re-invent the screw so they > should be a more or less standard thread and diameter. > Finding out which > standard will be the trick. 8-) > > Ron L > > -----Original Message----- > From: phono-l-bounces@oldcrank.org > [mailto:phono-l-bounces@oldcrank.org] On > Behalf Of john robles > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 1:16 AM > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: [Phono-L] Screws needed > > Hello all > I am in desperate need of a set of four screws for an > Edison Trimph shaving > device. I know these will be hard to get. Failing tha, does > anyone know the > thread on those so I can perhaps ge someting temporary til > I do find the > screws? > I would appreciat it very much! > Thanks > John > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From C5fan at aol.com Wed Feb 4 18:41:02 2009 From: C5fan at aol.com (C5fan@aol.com) Date: Wed Feb 4 18:46:25 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Screws needed Message-ID: The person to see about the shaver screws is Terry Baer at _t@edisonTriumph.com_ (mailto:t@edisonTriumph.com) . If he does not have extras, contact me back. I may have a sample that I will need back, but you can use it for sizing. In a message dated 2/4/2009 9:52:07 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, lherault@bu.edu writes: If no one comes forward, John, and I'll bet George Vollema can help, take the shaver to an industrial mill supply store. They will have all manner of set screws from the minute to the massive, and should be able to find something to fit. I don't think Tom bothered to re-invent the screw so they should be a more or less standard thread and diameter. Finding out which standard will be the trick. 8-) Ron L -----Original Message----- From: phono-l-bounces@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of john robles Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 1:16 AM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Screws needed Hello all I am in desperate need of a set of four screws for an Edison Trimph shaving device. I know these will be hard to get. Failing tha, does anyone know the thread on those so I can perhaps ge someting temporary til I do find the screws? I would appreciat it very much! Thanks John _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **************Who's never won? Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?ncid=emlcntusmusi00000001) From RROCRREC at aol.com Wed Feb 4 19:39:45 2009 From: RROCRREC at aol.com (RROCRREC@aol.com) Date: Wed Feb 4 19:45:10 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Re: Phono-L Digest, Vol 6, Issue 29 Message-ID: Header on current Ebay listing "Copper" horn. Tinfreak is currently listing a "copper" horn on Ebay, sorry I did not get the listing number. I am probably just dumb but I do not see a copper horn in the photos attached to the listing. Was there a company that manufactured copper horns and, in fact, is this one of those horns. Here I go again probably going to get an earful but that is what I need to move on. Thanks to all, Larry Hawes **************Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1217883258x1201191827/aol?redir=http://ad.doubleclick. net/clk;211531132;33070124;e) From john9ten at pacbell.net Wed Feb 4 22:26:56 2009 From: john9ten at pacbell.net (john robles) Date: Wed Feb 4 22:27:17 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Screws needed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <273992.84180.qm@web83003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks for the tip, I wrote him and asked for help. I will let you know what happens. I have a friend who is a machinist and can make me the screws if I use your sample. Thanks again! John --- On Wed, 2/4/09, C5fan@aol.com wrote: > From: C5fan@aol.com > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Screws needed > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 6:41 PM > The person to see about the shaver screws is Terry Baer at > _t@edisonTriumph.com_ (mailto:t@edisonTriumph.com) . If he > does not have extras, contact me > back. I may have a sample that I will need back, but you > can use it for sizing. > > > In a message dated 2/4/2009 9:52:07 A.M. Eastern Standard > Time, > lherault@bu.edu writes: > > If no one comes forward, John, and I'll bet George > Vollema can help, take > the shaver to an industrial mill supply store. They will > have all manner of > set screws from the minute to the massive, and should be > able to find > something to fit. I don't think Tom bothered to > re-invent the screw so they > should be a more or less standard thread and diameter. > Finding out which > standard will be the trick. 8-) > > Ron L > > -----Original Message----- > From: phono-l-bounces@oldcrank.org > [mailto:phono-l-bounces@oldcrank.org] On > Behalf Of john robles > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 1:16 AM > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: [Phono-L] Screws needed > > Hello all > I am in desperate need of a set of four screws for an > Edison Trimph shaving > device. I know these will be hard to get. Failing tha, > does anyone know the > thread on those so I can perhaps ge someting temporary til > I do find the > screws? > I would appreciat it very much! > Thanks > John > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > **************Who's never won? Biggest Grammy Award > surprises of all time on > AOL Music. > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?ncid=emlcntusmusi00000001) > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From steve_noreen at msn.com Thu Feb 5 08:40:21 2009 From: steve_noreen at msn.com (Steven Medved) Date: Thu Feb 5 08:40:42 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Re: Phono-L Digest, Vol 6, Issue 29 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://cgi.ebay.com/Early-1890s-Copper-Drip-Pan-Cylinder-Phonograph-Horn_W0QQitemZ140298328041 > Header on current Ebay listing "Copper" horn. > Tinfreak is currently listing a "copper" horn on Ebay, sorry I did not get > the listing number. I am probably just dumb but I do not see a copper horn in > the photos attached to the listing. Was there a company that manufactured copper > horns and, in fact, is this one of those horns. Here I go again probably > going to get an earful but that is what I need to move on. Thanks to all, Larry > Hawes > From rvuill at comcast.net Thu Feb 5 10:40:58 2009 From: rvuill at comcast.net (Bob) Date: Thu Feb 5 10:41:14 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] eBay 370154636974 References: <002201c986d2$8e548e10$53d6299b@ad.bu.edu><297626.63300.qm@web83003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <004301c986e2$5683d120$53d6299b@ad.bu.edu> Message-ID: <34378B2073F14543830102AAB671DBB5@your4dacd0ea75> Does anyone know what this horn bell fits? eBay # 370154636974 From waykos at shaw.ca Thu Feb 5 18:55:29 2009 From: waykos at shaw.ca (wayne) Date: Thu Feb 5 18:55:41 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] For sale Victor 4 Message-ID: <0A18434DE351405FB2C6DBE3169ED4C4@waynePC> I'm selling a Victor 4 without horn for 1250.00.It is all orignal and in great working condition.Any member interested can contact me off line for pics.waykos@shaw.ca Thanks,Wayne From john9ten at pacbell.net Thu Feb 5 19:08:09 2009 From: john9ten at pacbell.net (john robles) Date: Thu Feb 5 19:08:30 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] eBay 370154636974 In-Reply-To: <34378B2073F14543830102AAB671DBB5@your4dacd0ea75> Message-ID: <746170.19515.qm@web83004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> If you ask me it looks like a radio horn. I think it's too shallow to be a phono horn bell. --- On Thu, 2/5/09, Bob wrote: > From: Bob > Subject: [Phono-L] eBay 370154636974 > To: "Antique Phonograph List" > Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 10:40 AM > Does anyone know what this horn bell fits? eBay # > 370154636974_______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From waykos at shaw.ca Fri Feb 6 07:26:43 2009 From: waykos at shaw.ca (wayne) Date: Fri Feb 6 07:36:22 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] FS: Herzog cabinet #835 Message-ID: I have a man wanting to sell a deluxe 835 (see page 113 In the gadgets book).This has the original grill and is in oak.If interested I can send pics off list.The price is 8000.00 obo. From maffit2 at bresnan.net Fri Feb 6 14:54:47 2009 From: maffit2 at bresnan.net (Bob or Jo Ann Maffit) Date: Fri Feb 6 15:14:59 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] For sale Victor 4 References: <0A18434DE351405FB2C6DBE3169ED4C4@waynePC> Message-ID: Wayne: Please send pics of the Vic IV for sale. thanks Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "wayne" To: Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 7:55 PM Subject: [Phono-L] For sale Victor 4 I'm selling a Victor 4 without horn for 1250.00.It is all orignal and in great working condition.Any member interested can contact me off line for pics.waykos@shaw.ca Thanks,Wayne _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.19/1938 - Release Date: 02/05/09 11:34:00 From waykos at shaw.ca Fri Feb 6 16:19:36 2009 From: waykos at shaw.ca (wayne) Date: Fri Feb 6 16:19:45 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Re: Herzog Cabinet Message-ID: <86979776DF5E42B492FD4FA6F91F2256@waynePC> Sorry guys to see pics you can email me at.....waykos@shaw.ca From waykos at shaw.ca Fri Feb 6 19:08:52 2009 From: waykos at shaw.ca (wayne) Date: Fri Feb 6 19:09:00 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Re victor4sold Message-ID: The Victor 4 is sold Thanks for all the replies. From waykos at shaw.ca Sat Feb 7 09:32:50 2009 From: waykos at shaw.ca (wayne) Date: Sat Feb 7 09:33:00 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] victrola L door 16 Message-ID: <379EF2A3905E49B3BA54106F4CC768C0@waynePC> Can anyone help me find the following parts for a "L" door 16 in mahogany.The bottom drawer,gold needle cup and any record books.Thanks From ctho782451 at msn.com Sat Feb 7 18:55:20 2009 From: ctho782451 at msn.com (Bob Thomsen) Date: Sat Feb 7 19:01:21 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] victrola L door 16 In-Reply-To: <379EF2A3905E49B3BA54106F4CC768C0@waynePC> References: <379EF2A3905E49B3BA54106F4CC768C0@waynePC> Message-ID: Wayne, A friend of mine can help you with a mahogany drawer for an L door XVI. Call Don at (360) 6950811. Good Luck, Bob Thomsen > From: waykos@shaw.ca > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 09:32:50 -0800 > Subject: [Phono-L] victrola L door 16 > > Can anyone help me find the following parts for a "L" door 16 in mahogany.The bottom drawer,gold needle cup and any record books.Thanks > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From deedeeblais at yahoo.com Sun Feb 8 12:41:51 2009 From: deedeeblais at yahoo.com (DeeDee Blais) Date: Sun Feb 8 12:48:39 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Will haul from Oregon to Union and back! Message-ID: <150869.64453.qm@web37004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Let me know if you need anything hauled from Oregon to Union and back in June. Last year was great fun. I traveled with three other collectors and we antiqued our way there and back. We also visited some fabulous collections with our Cheese Head friends in Wisconsin. We picked up a 1928 Chevrolet in Iowa for a friend in Oregon and a dresser for my next door neighbor. Along the way, we picked up five old bicycles, a bunch of phonographs and had a great time on our 5200 mile trip. From abefeder1 at gmail.com Sun Feb 8 15:22:52 2009 From: abefeder1 at gmail.com (Abe Feder) Date: Sun Feb 8 15:22:57 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Will haul from Oregon to Union and back! In-Reply-To: <150869.64453.qm@web37004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <150869.64453.qm@web37004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4e885f140902081522p200acdb8gdbdf0564f3fe789f@mail.gmail.com> Hi-any chance you might want to stop by sunny Arizona-I have a spare bedroom-Abe Feder On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 1:41 PM, DeeDee Blais wrote: > Let me know if you need anything hauled from Oregon to Union and back in > June. Last year was great fun. I traveled with three other collectors and > we antiqued our way there and back. We also visited some fabulous > collections with our Cheese Head friends in Wisconsin. We picked up a 1928 > Chevrolet in Iowa for a friend in Oregon and a dresser for my next door > neighbor. Along the way, we picked up five old bicycles, a bunch of > phonographs and had a great time on our 5200 mile trip. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > From deedeeblais at yahoo.com Mon Feb 9 18:13:13 2009 From: deedeeblais at yahoo.com (DeeDee Blais) Date: Mon Feb 9 18:13:18 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Hauling to Union Message-ID: <414743.16894.qm@web37007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks for the offer Abe. Arizona is a little out of the way but you never know. Jerry From lherault at bu.edu Wed Feb 11 05:55:55 2009 From: lherault at bu.edu (Ron L) Date: Wed Feb 11 05:56:28 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Happy Birthday Message-ID: <002201c98c50$75e64f70$79d6299b@ad.bu.edu> It's Tom Edison's birthday! Happy Birthday, Tom!!! Ron L From wilenzick at bellsouth.net Wed Feb 11 14:35:54 2009 From: wilenzick at bellsouth.net (Raymond Wilenzick) Date: Wed Feb 11 14:36:28 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Graphophone N Question Message-ID: <001f01c98c99$1a49d120$6401a8c0@Wilenzick> Happy Tom Edison's Birthday to all. I have a Columbia Type N Graphophone in very nice mechanical condition, but have a problem. When the #2 reproducer is lowered to playing position, the stylus does not quite contact the cylinder surface on any cylinder I have tried. The reproducer support tube is moving properly. Has anyone else seen this with a Type N, and if so what is the solution? I know the N was originally supplied with the #1 gutta percha reproducer ( which I don't have!), and wonder if it was thicker than a #2. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Ray From AllenAmet at aol.com Wed Feb 11 15:14:31 2009 From: AllenAmet at aol.com (AllenAmet@aol.com) Date: Wed Feb 11 15:17:34 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] US Everlasting machine (parts) Message-ID: Hi A friend is looking for just the crank handle and governor (weights) for a 'US Banner' cylinder phono. Will buy or trade, etc. Any leads? Thanks. Allen _www.phonobooks.com_ (http://www.phonobooks.com) **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. AOL Music takes you there. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?ncid=emlcntusmusi00000002) From hawthorn at thoseoldrecords.com Wed Feb 11 15:45:41 2009 From: hawthorn at thoseoldrecords.com (Hawthorn's Antique Audio) Date: Wed Feb 11 15:52:29 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] commercial - new auction list now available Message-ID: Hi Everyone, Auction list #126 - "2009, A Record Year" is now available. Here's a sample of what you will find: Five inch concert cylinders Blue Amberol Concert series cylinders Pathe Pfestival, part 2 Early single face labels Unusual acoustic labels Odd size center holes A Bing Crosby curiosity collection Library of Congress Archive of Folk Song selections Concert bands and instrumentals Vintage sheet music folios Books - popular, jazz and classical Early phonograph literature reprints Needle tins and accessories 12" jazz 78s from the Elwood collection Jazz magazines and paper items Blues records, both pre and post war A large group of V-Discs 1920s and 1930s Dance Bands Odds and Ends of 10" 78s Classical Historic Masters reissues RCA Heritage Series red vinyl reissues Many classical vocal and orchestral selections Ancient operatic broadsides - 150 years old Classical magazines and paper items Edison Diamond Disc classical titles Brand new Edison Diamond Discs from an old dealer stock Visit our website (address below) for a picture gallery of some of the highlights. If you've never received any of our auction lists before, now would be a good time to start. We are offering a SPECIAL for list members who are receiving our auction for the first time. Mention this posting and you will receive a New Bidder Coupon good for a 10% discount on your winning bids (postage and tax excluded). We can send you a printed catalog by mail or a PDF copy by email - which would you prefer? Please reply off list. Thanks! Tom Hawthorn Hawthorn's Antique Audio www.thoseoldrecords.com hawthorn@thoseoldrecords.com From jnichol at fuse.net Wed Feb 11 16:50:38 2009 From: jnichol at fuse.net (Jim Nichol) Date: Wed Feb 11 16:55:45 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Graphophone N Question In-Reply-To: <001f01c98c99$1a49d120$6401a8c0@Wilenzick> References: <001f01c98c99$1a49d120$6401a8c0@Wilenzick> Message-ID: <6B292FE0-EB1D-4DEC-9DDB-5863A7A9DC84@fuse.net> I sold my Columbia N in 2006 to Shawn O'Rourke (who's probably on Phono-L). There are still pictures of the N at: http://web.mac.com/jn45224/iWeb/Site/Library.html I don't know enough about Columbias to know what kind of reproducer is shown in the photos. But I believe it worked OK. Jim Nichol On Feb 11, 2009, at 5:35 PM, Raymond Wilenzick wrote: > Happy Tom Edison's Birthday to all. > > I have a Columbia Type N Graphophone in very nice mechanical > condition, but have a problem. When the #2 reproducer is lowered to > playing position, the stylus does not quite contact the cylinder > surface on any cylinder I have tried. The reproducer support tube > is moving properly. Has anyone else seen this with a Type N, and if > so what is the solution? I know the N was originally supplied with > the #1 gutta percha reproducer ( which I don't have!), and wonder if > it was thicker than a #2. > Any suggestions would be appreciated. > > Ray > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From funks2 at comcast.net Thu Feb 12 10:10:20 2009 From: funks2 at comcast.net (funk) Date: Thu Feb 12 10:10:28 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Happy Birthday Abe! In-Reply-To: <002201c98c50$75e64f70$79d6299b@ad.bu.edu> References: <002201c98c50$75e64f70$79d6299b@ad.bu.edu> Message-ID: <8545C5142D5244C2B32BC9EB66699C96@your4dacd0ea75> Today, here in Springfield, Illinois we are celebrating the 200th birthday of Lincoln. The paper published the following quote by Lincoln during his lecture on "Discoveries, Inventions and Improvements" which he gave on February 11, 1859. "In the world's history, certain inventions and discoveries occurred, of peculiar value, on account of their great efficiency in facilitating all other inventions and discoveries. Of these were the arts of writing and of printing -- the discovery of America, and the introduction of Patent-laws." -----Original Message----- From: phono-l-bounces@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Ron L Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 7:56 AM To: '78-L Mail List'; 'Antique Phonograph List'; phonolist@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Phono-L] Happy Birthday It's Tom Edison's birthday! Happy Birthday, Tom!!! Ron L _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From ClockworkHome at aol.com Thu Feb 12 13:35:15 2009 From: ClockworkHome at aol.com (ClockworkHome@aol.com) Date: Thu Feb 12 13:37:58 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Frankenphono on eBay... Message-ID: It was just a matter of time before something like this appeared on eBay. I actually like it. An Amberola DX motor, Edison Home MG horn bell, brand X tone arm and bracket, and a Graphophone or homemade cabinet make this conglomeration a humorous version of a frankenphono. eBay 320340552023 will give you a chuckle. Regards to All, Al **************Nothing says I love you like flowers! Find a florist near you now. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=florist&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000002) From Zonophone2006 at aol.com Thu Feb 12 14:07:38 2009 From: Zonophone2006 at aol.com (Zonophone2006@aol.com) Date: Thu Feb 12 14:08:32 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Graphophone N Question Message-ID: hi jim et all well well well i bought the machine from a friend who bought it from shawn i renickled to bed plate but have not put the new decal on it i have an my self with the gutta reproducer but am trying to sell this one but not in a hurry to do so it is still a good machine thanks for the web site on it zono In a message dated 2/11/2009 7:56:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jnichol@fuse.net writes: I sold my Columbia N in 2006 to Shawn O'Rourke (who's probably on Phono-L). There are still pictures of the N at: http://web.mac.com/jn45224/iWeb/Site/Library.html I don't know enough about Columbias to know what kind of reproducer is shown in the photos. But I believe it worked OK. Jim Nichol On Feb 11, 2009, at 5:35 PM, Raymond Wilenzick wrote: > Happy Tom Edison's Birthday to all. > > I have a Columbia Type N Graphophone in very nice mechanical > condition, but have a problem. When the #2 reproducer is lowered to > playing position, the stylus does not quite contact the cylinder > surface on any cylinder I have tried. The reproducer support tube > is moving properly. Has anyone else seen this with a Type N, and if > so what is the solution? I know the N was originally supplied with > the #1 gutta percha reproducer ( which I don't have!), and wonder if > it was thicker than a #2. > Any suggestions would be appreciated. > > Ray > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1218550342x1201216770/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=fe bemailfooterNO62) From Zonophone2006 at aol.com Thu Feb 12 14:09:13 2009 From: Zonophone2006 at aol.com (Zonophone2006@aol.com) Date: Thu Feb 12 14:14:41 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Graphophone N Question Message-ID: hi again shawn or someone did take the id plate off but its all the same still i wish i has the id plate too best to all zono In a message dated 2/11/2009 7:56:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jnichol@fuse.net writes: I sold my Columbia N in 2006 to Shawn O'Rourke (who's probably on Phono-L). There are still pictures of the N at: http://web.mac.com/jn45224/iWeb/Site/Library.html I don't know enough about Columbias to know what kind of reproducer is shown in the photos. But I believe it worked OK. Jim Nichol On Feb 11, 2009, at 5:35 PM, Raymond Wilenzick wrote: > Happy Tom Edison's Birthday to all. > > I have a Columbia Type N Graphophone in very nice mechanical > condition, but have a problem. When the #2 reproducer is lowered to > playing position, the stylus does not quite contact the cylinder > surface on any cylinder I have tried. The reproducer support tube > is moving properly. Has anyone else seen this with a Type N, and if > so what is the solution? I know the N was originally supplied with > the #1 gutta percha reproducer ( which I don't have!), and wonder if > it was thicker than a #2. > Any suggestions would be appreciated. > > Ray > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/ promoclk/100000075x1218550342x1201216770/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=fe bemailfooterNO62) From glastris at comcast.net Thu Feb 12 15:28:34 2009 From: glastris at comcast.net (George Glastris) Date: Thu Feb 12 15:28:48 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Frankenphono on eBay... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The back bracket and tone arm are from a US Banner phonograph which matches the cabinet somewhat......probably the best part of the whole machine. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 3:35 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Frankenphono on eBay... > It was just a matter of time before something like this appeared on eBay. > > I actually like it. An Amberola DX motor, Edison Home MG horn bell, brand > X > tone arm and bracket, and a Graphophone or homemade cabinet make this > conglomeration a humorous version of a frankenphono. > > eBay 320340552023 will give you a chuckle. > > Regards to All, > > Al > > **************Nothing says I love you like flowers! Find a florist near > you > now. > (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=florist&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000002) > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > From jnichol at fuse.net Thu Feb 12 16:51:00 2009 From: jnichol at fuse.net (Jim Nichol) Date: Thu Feb 12 16:51:06 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Graphophone N Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The "Indiana Graphophone" nameplate in my pictures below is gone? I wonder what happened to it? Do you have any pics of the machine with the new nickel plating? I always intended to do that (and a new decal), and I think Shawn was planning the same. What were you saying about a gutta percha reproducer? I could never figure out if the metal one in my pictures was an original or a repro. By the way, remind me who "zono" is. I usually don't remember who the alias guys are. Jim Nichol jnichol@fuse.net On Feb 12, 2009, at 5:09 PM, Zonophone2006@aol.com wrote: > hi again > shawn or someone did take the id plate off but its all the same still > i wish i has the id plate too > best to all > zono > > > In a message dated 2/11/2009 7:56:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > jnichol@fuse.net writes: > > I sold my Columbia N in 2006 to Shawn O'Rourke (who's probably on > Phono-L). There are still pictures of the N at: > > http://web.mac.com/jn45224/iWeb/Site/Library.html > > I don't know enough about Columbias to know what kind of reproducer > is > shown in the photos. But I believe it worked OK. > > Jim Nichol > > On Feb 11, 2009, at 5:35 PM, Raymond Wilenzick wrote: > >> Happy Tom Edison's Birthday to all. >> >> I have a Columbia Type N Graphophone in very nice mechanical >> condition, but have a problem. When the #2 reproducer is lowered to >> playing position, the stylus does not quite contact the cylinder >> surface on any cylinder I have tried. The reproducer support tube >> is moving properly. Has anyone else seen this with a Type N, and if >> so what is the solution? I know the N was originally supplied with >> the #1 gutta percha reproducer ( which I don't have!), and wonder if >> it was thicker than a #2. >> Any suggestions would be appreciated. >> >> Ray >> From ret.armysgt at yahoo.com Thu Feb 12 16:55:58 2009 From: ret.armysgt at yahoo.com (William Buchanan) Date: Thu Feb 12 17:02:46 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Frankenphono on eBay... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <920155.65338.qm@web57509.mail.re1.yahoo.com> I hope the person that? buys this knows that it is a frankenphono! The seller should be selling this as parts. Is it possible that it really works? The seller says it does. Bill --- On Thu, 2/12/09, George Glastris wrote: From: George Glastris Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Frankenphono on eBay... To: "Antique Phonograph List" Date: Thursday, February 12, 2009, 6:28 PM The back bracket and tone arm are from a US Banner phonograph which matches the cabinet somewhat......probably the best part of the whole machine. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 3:35 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Frankenphono on eBay... > It was just a matter of time before something like this appeared on eBay. > > I actually like it. An Amberola DX motor, Edison Home MG horn bell, brand X > tone arm and bracket, and a Graphophone or homemade cabinet make this > conglomeration a humorous version of a frankenphono. > > eBay 320340552023 will give you a chuckle. > > Regards to All, > > Al > > **************Nothing says I love you like flowers! Find a florist near you > now. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=florist&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000002) > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From deedeeblais at yahoo.com Thu Feb 12 17:55:33 2009 From: deedeeblais at yahoo.com (DeeDee Blais) Date: Thu Feb 12 17:55:38 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Visit through North Dakota Message-ID: <782285.90752.qm@web37001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The OTAPS members that are traveling to Union are considering a northerly route through North Dakota. Can someone familiar with that area recommend some good scenic or tourist things to do? Thanks, Jerry Blais From pjfraser at alamedanet.net Thu Feb 12 18:14:07 2009 From: pjfraser at alamedanet.net (Peter Fraser) Date: Thu Feb 12 18:38:16 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Visit through North Dakota In-Reply-To: <782285.90752.qm@web37001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <782285.90752.qm@web37001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <64872E3A-8547-43FB-B09E-629C4358DF79@alamedanet.net> Wave at Honest Abe as you pass Rushmore...today's his 200th birthday!!! Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfraser@mac.com On Feb 12, 2009, at 5:55 PM, DeeDee Blais wrote: > The OTAPS members that are traveling to Union are considering a > northerly route through North Dakota. Can someone familiar with > that area recommend some good scenic or tourist things to do? > Thanks, Jerry Blais > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From ethanuel1 at yahoo.com Thu Feb 12 19:34:02 2009 From: ethanuel1 at yahoo.com (wayne holznagel) Date: Thu Feb 12 19:34:09 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Visit through North Dakota In-Reply-To: <64872E3A-8547-43FB-B09E-629C4358DF79@alamedanet.net> Message-ID: <749173.50188.qm@web111414.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Mt Rushmore is in South Dakota.? I would suggest taking a look at Medora.? There are a lot of neat things to look at . . . Chateau De Mores?. . . the national park info center . . . one of the countries two (I think) wild horse herds.? The North Dakota State Museum is in Bismarck.? A neat place.? It's just to the north and east of the capital bldg.? Then in Washburn (about 40 mi north of Bismarck) is the Lewis & Clark fort.? While in Washburn visit the ferry on the water front.? Belonged to one of my relatives and is a desingated historical site. <:)> Wayne H ? My website is at http://www.phonomantiques.com/ --- On Thu, 2/12/09, Peter Fraser wrote: From: Peter Fraser Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Visit through North Dakota To: "Antique Phonograph List" Date: Thursday, February 12, 2009, 8:14 PM Wave at Honest Abe as you pass Rushmore...today's his 200th birthday!!! Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfraser@mac.com On Feb 12, 2009, at 5:55 PM, DeeDee Blais wrote: > The OTAPS members that are traveling to Union are considering a northerly route through North Dakota. Can someone familiar with that area recommend some good scenic or tourist things to do? Thanks, Jerry Blais > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From jnichol at fuse.net Thu Feb 12 21:09:52 2009 From: jnichol at fuse.net (Jim Nichol) Date: Thu Feb 12 21:09:57 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Frankenphono on eBay... In-Reply-To: <920155.65338.qm@web57509.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <920155.65338.qm@web57509.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I think the seller covered himself fairly well by saying the the phono is in the wrong case. Anyone with a fraction of a brain would know to Google "Amberola DX" before buying it, if they didn't know what an Amberola DX was. Jim On Feb 12, 2009, at 7:55 PM, William Buchanan wrote: > I hope the person that buys this knows that it is a frankenphono! > The seller should be selling this as parts. > Is it possible that it really works? The seller says it does. > > Bill > > --- On Thu, 2/12/09, George Glastris wrote: > From: George Glastris > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Frankenphono on eBay... > To: "Antique Phonograph List" > Date: Thursday, February 12, 2009, 6:28 PM > > The back bracket and tone arm are from a US Banner phonograph which > matches the > cabinet somewhat......probably the best part of the whole machine. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 3:35 PM > Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Frankenphono on eBay... > > >> It was just a matter of time before something like this appeared on >> eBay. >> >> I actually like it. An Amberola DX motor, Edison Home MG horn >> bell, brand > X >> tone arm and bracket, and a Graphophone or homemade cabinet make this >> conglomeration a humorous version of a frankenphono. >> >> eBay 320340552023 will give you a chuckle. >> >> Regards to All, >> >> Al >> >> **************Nothing says I love you like flowers! Find a florist >> near > you >> now. > (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=florist&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000002 > ) >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From ClockworkHome at aol.com Fri Feb 13 01:26:50 2009 From: ClockworkHome at aol.com (ClockworkHome@aol.com) Date: Fri Feb 13 01:27:01 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Re: Edison Frankenphono on eBay... Message-ID: In a message dated 2/12/2009 5:30:16 PM Pacific Standard Time, ret.armysgt@yahoo.com writes: Is it possible that it really works? The seller says it does. Bill I would bet it works just fine. Orville White, a gifted machinist collector in Portland, Oregon, once saw an ad in a local paper for an "Emerson Diamond Disk Victroler" (sic) and that gave him an idea. He used a Graphophone base, an Amberola V works, and an early radio cygnet horn to make the mutt. It played very well and was a hoot to behold the reaction of collectors when first encountering it. I don't know where it went when he passed away but someone got a real conversation piece. Best Wishes to All, Al **************Nothing says I love you like flowers! Find a florist near you now. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=florist&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000002) From phonofolks at aol.com Fri Feb 13 06:30:52 2009 From: phonofolks at aol.com (phonofolks@aol.com) Date: Fri Feb 13 06:31:07 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Visit through North Dakota In-Reply-To: <749173.50188.qm@web111414.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CB5BFECE9776C4-13E8-3083@WEBMAIL-MZ35.sysops.aol.com> There are also some phono collectors around Fargo to look up. ?Fargo ususally has their annual spring fair around the same time as union, but I am not sure of the dates. I was there in 2002 and it was a week long event with shows from the Beach Boys and Toby Keith just before?he hit it big. Rick -----Original Message----- From: wayne holznagel To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 10:34 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Visit through North Dakota Mt Rushmore is in South Dakota.? I would suggest taking a look at Medora.? There are a lot of neat things to look at . . . Chateau De Mores?. . . the national park info center . . . one of the countries two (I think) wild horse herds.? The North Dakota State Museum is in Bismarck.? A neat place.? It's just to the north and east of the capital bldg.? Then in Washburn (about 40 mi north of Bismarck) is the Lewis & Clark fort.? While in Washburn visit the ferry on the water front.? Belonged to one of my relatives and is a desingated historical site. <:)> Wayne H ? My website is at http://www.phonomantiques.com/ --- On Thu, 2/12/09, Peter Fraser wrote: From: Peter Fraser Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Visit through North Dakota To: "Antique Phonograph List" Date: Thursday, February 12, 2009, 8:14 PM Wave at Honest Abe as you pass Rushmore...today's his 200th birthday!!! Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfraser@mac.com On Feb 12, 2009, at 5:55 PM, DeeDee Blais wrote: > The OTAPS members that are traveling to Union are considering a northerly route through North Dakota. Can someone familiar with that area recommend some good scenic or tourist things to do? Thanks, Jerry Blais > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From phonofolks at aol.com Fri Feb 13 06:48:30 2009 From: phonofolks at aol.com (phonofolks@aol.com) Date: Fri Feb 13 06:54:08 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Graphophone N Question: Ray please read. In-Reply-To: <001f01c98c99$1a49d120$6401a8c0@Wilenzick> References: <001f01c98c99$1a49d120$6401a8c0@Wilenzick> Message-ID: <8CB5C0143B5992A-13E8-3194@WEBMAIL-MZ35.sysops.aol.com> Ray: I know someone who bouugh a model "N" years ago and had it renickled and cleaned by a very respected and knowledgable phonograph repair person. When the owner received the machine back the repair person stated that he had to move and make a new bearing on the end gate for the manderel to fit because the position of the old bearing?no longer fit correctly with the mandrel? which caused?the reproducer to track incorrectly. After the repair the machine played wonderfully. Rick -----Original Message----- From: Raymond Wilenzick To: phonolist@yahoogroups.com; Phono-L@oldcrank.org Sent: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 5:35 pm Subject: [Phono-L] Graphophone N Question Happy Tom Edison's Birthday to all. I have a Columbia Type N Graphophone in very nice mechanical condition, but have a problem. When the #2 reproducer is lowered to playing position, the stylus does not quite contact the cylinder surface on any cylinder I have tried. The reproducer support tube is moving properly. Has anyone else seen this with a Type N, and if so what is the solution? I know the N was originally supplied with the #1 gutta percha reproducer ( which I don't have!), and wonder if it was thicker than a #2. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Ray _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From scott at alumni.calpoly.edu Fri Feb 13 07:43:55 2009 From: scott at alumni.calpoly.edu (Scott) Date: Fri Feb 13 07:56:16 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Graphophone N Question Message-ID: <5448F729479F4A30A4063DA4901A1E0E@SCOTT> While this isn't directly related, I happen to have a machine with the same Indiana Graphophone Co. plaque on a Columbia AS. The "N" plaque is the only other I have seen. You can see it here: Image Hosted by ImageShack.us
By mtphono From AllenAmet at aol.com Fri Feb 13 11:10:11 2009 From: AllenAmet at aol.com (AllenAmet@aol.com) Date: Fri Feb 13 11:16:46 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Graphophone N Question Message-ID: In a message dated 2/12/2009 7:53:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jnichol@fuse.net writes: The "Indiana Graphophone" nameplate in my pictures below is gone? I wonder what happened to it? ------------ I have re-issued the 1897 Indiana Graphophone Co catalog (Columbia). But it does not show the Bijou model (N). It does list it at $40, and more with various accessories. Allen _www.phonobooks.com_ (http://www.phonobooks.com) **************Nothing says I love you like flowers! Find a florist near you now. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=florist&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000002) From bruce78rpm at comcast.net Fri Feb 13 12:14:19 2009 From: bruce78rpm at comcast.net (bruce78rpm@comcast.net) Date: Fri Feb 13 12:14:23 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Part for Columbia Graphophone (MacDonald) Model AB Message-ID: <1604794641.731581234556059094.JavaMail.root@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I was at a MOCAPS meeting last Sunday and one of the members dsiplayed and demonstrated the unusual model AB (MacDonald) Graphophone, I noticed that it had a shallow flat headed screw with a decorative head that actually holds the 5" telescoping Mandrel in place once it is placed over the regular mandrel. I have a Columbia AB and never realized that feature existed until I saw this AB. So I am presently looking for an original holding screw, which I wouldn't hold out much chance of finding or a good reproduction if need be. Does anyone know if there is any suppliers who make a good repro holding screw for the 5" Telescoping Mandrel for the AB? Thanks for your help in advance, Bruce From harveykravitz at yahoo.com Fri Feb 13 15:27:20 2009 From: harveykravitz at yahoo.com (harvey kravitz) Date: Fri Feb 13 15:27:26 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Re: Edison Frankenphono on eBay... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <245648.37029.qm@web54305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi Gang, I had a look at the franken-phono. It really caught my attention. If this was an old conversion during the 1920's or the Depression, It is a true piece of Yankee ingenuity. It shows how frugal families were, waste not want not. I look at this piece as a true piece of folk Americana. we get so wrapped up in the perfect, mint machine, that we forget that there are some unusual machines that are one of a kind. There are some blatantly mismatched machine with hodge podge parts that look like junk. Who ever modified this machine, did it with thought. Harvey P. Kravitz --- On Fri, 2/13/09, ClockworkHome@aol.com wrote: From: ClockworkHome@aol.com Subject: [Phono-L] Re: Edison Frankenphono on eBay... To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 1:26 AM In a message dated 2/12/2009 5:30:16 PM Pacific Standard Time, ret.armysgt@yahoo.com writes: Is it possible that it really works? The seller says it does. Bill I would bet it works just fine. Orville White, a gifted machinist collector in Portland, Oregon, once saw an ad in a local paper for an "Emerson Diamond Disk Victroler" (sic) and that gave him an idea. He used a Graphophone base, an Amberola V works, and an early radio cygnet horn to make the mutt. It played very well and was a hoot to behold the reaction of collectors when first encountering it. I don't know where it went when he passed away but someone got a real conversation piece. Best Wishes to All, Al **************Nothing says I love you like flowers! Find a florist near you now. 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From Zonophone2006 at aol.com Sat Feb 14 03:11:54 2009 From: Zonophone2006 at aol.com (Zonophone2006@aol.com) Date: Sat Feb 14 03:12:07 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Graphophone N Question Message-ID: hi i am rob mallett in sarasota florida the reproducer is original but not for that machine the gutta percha is what belongs on that email me and i can take some pictures of it its a good machine i was trying to sell it at the florida show but not much was selling due to the economy zono In a message dated 2/12/2009 7:53:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jnichol@fuse.net writes: The "Indiana Graphophone" nameplate in my pictures below is gone? I wonder what happened to it? Do you have any pics of the machine with the new nickel plating? I always intended to do that (and a new decal), and I think Shawn was planning the same. What were you saying about a gutta percha reproducer? I could never figure out if the metal one in my pictures was an original or a repro. By the way, remind me who "zono" is. I usually don't remember who the alias guys are. Jim Nichol jnichol@fuse.net On Feb 12, 2009, at 5:09 PM, Zonophone2006@aol.com wrote: > hi again > shawn or someone did take the id plate off but its all the same still > i wish i has the id plate too > best to all > zono > > > In a message dated 2/11/2009 7:56:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > jnichol@fuse.net writes: > > I sold my Columbia N in 2006 to Shawn O'Rourke (who's probably on > Phono-L). There are still pictures of the N at: > > http://web.mac.com/jn45224/iWeb/Site/Library.html > > I don't know enough about Columbias to know what kind of reproducer > is > shown in the photos. But I believe it worked OK. > > Jim Nichol > > On Feb 11, 2009, at 5:35 PM, Raymond Wilenzick wrote: > >> Happy Tom Edison's Birthday to all. >> >> I have a Columbia Type N Graphophone in very nice mechanical >> condition, but have a problem. When the #2 reproducer is lowered to >> playing position, the stylus does not quite contact the cylinder >> surface on any cylinder I have tried. The reproducer support tube >> is moving properly. Has anyone else seen this with a Type N, and if >> so what is the solution? I know the N was originally supplied with >> the #1 gutta percha reproducer ( which I don't have!), and wonder if >> it was thicker than a #2. >> Any suggestions would be appreciated. >> >> Ray >> _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=fe bemailfooterNO62) From john9ten at pacbell.net Sat Feb 14 10:14:49 2009 From: john9ten at pacbell.net (john robles) Date: Sat Feb 14 10:14:55 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Back Bracket/Tonearm to trade Message-ID: <941684.4212.qm@web83005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Happy Valentine's day to all! Has anybody got a Victor III Back bracket and tonearm that they would trade for a Victor II back bracket and tonearm?? There is not much striping on the Vic II tonearm, and I wouldn't be too picky about the Victor III bracket..I have a really nice Victor III that I am going to have to sell, but the back bracket is incorrect and I would like to fix that. It does have a very nice elbow as well, and I might be enticed to throw that in for a straight trade. I know I'd be getting the worst of that deal, but I do need to sell the three. Spouse out of work for 8 months now and nothing in sight. Thanks! John Robles From john9ten at pacbell.net Sat Feb 14 10:17:04 2009 From: john9ten at pacbell.net (john robles) Date: Sat Feb 14 10:17:33 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] HMV Model 104, VV-XVI for sale Message-ID: <271810.5822.qm@web83005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi I also have a very nice HMV model 104, which is similar to a Victrola VIII but has the HMV orthophonic reproducer, and this little machine sounds absolutley amazing! $300, email for pics. Late Victrola XVI, mahogany, goldplated hardware, excellent sound, original key, $675. Email for pics. Thanks John Robles From abefeder1 at gmail.com Sat Feb 14 11:02:46 2009 From: abefeder1 at gmail.com (Abe Feder) Date: Sat Feb 14 11:02:53 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] HMV Model 104, VV-XVI for sale In-Reply-To: <271810.5822.qm@web83005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <271810.5822.qm@web83005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4e885f140902141102o7e7f49caj173e696c3d46630@mail.gmail.com> John, Would like to see pics for the 104 thx Abe Feder need4art On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 11:17 AM, john robles wrote: > Hi > I also have a very nice HMV model 104, which is similar to a Victrola VIII > but has the HMV orthophonic reproducer, and this little machine sounds > absolutley amazing! $300, email for pics. > Late Victrola XVI, mahogany, goldplated hardware, excellent sound, original > key, $675. Email for pics. > Thanks > John Robles > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > From john9ten at pacbell.net Sat Feb 14 11:05:03 2009 From: john9ten at pacbell.net (john robles) Date: Sat Feb 14 11:05:07 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Rare Victor Graphophone on ebay... Message-ID: <320346.8316.qm@web83002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Check this out if you want to see a rare 'collaboration' between Victor and Columbia... 150325308752 From ret.armysgt at yahoo.com Sat Feb 14 12:49:13 2009 From: ret.armysgt at yahoo.com (William Buchanan) Date: Sat Feb 14 12:49:18 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Help needed for missing reproducer Message-ID: <286355.7988.qm@web57508.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Hello, I am a disabled vet and I have started working and collecting phonographs (when I can find them really cheap)to help me deal with the pain from my injuries. I purchased from ebay a Victrola VV 2-35 (for about $30 after shipping). Of course at this price there was a couple of things wrong with the machine. I have one last item to fix and I am not able to locate the part and that would be the reproducer. Does anybody have a reproducer that would fit this player? It does not have to be in mint condition. If you have one please contact me. ret.armysgt@yahoo.com Thank you Bill Buchanan From jnichol at fuse.net Sun Feb 15 08:20:14 2009 From: jnichol at fuse.net (Jim Nichol) Date: Sun Feb 15 13:46:29 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Graphophone N Question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think I finally figured out what happened to the Columbia N nameplate, after I got my brain engaged properly. Actually, I found some old emails that probably explained it. My Columbia N, although complete, looked awful (as you can see in the pictures link below). It was missing most of the decal, the nickel plating, and some of the wood veneer, etc. I didn't think I'd be able to sell it. Then I saw a message from Shawn on Phonolist looking for some Columbia N parts. So I sold it to him for a parts machine, figuring he could make one nice machine from the parts we both had. (I can't believe I forgot that part when I wrote the previous msg below). Shawn was very generous in his price offer, even giving me MORE MONEY than I asked for!!!! He was a true gentleman though the whole process. I'd deal with Shawn again any day. Jim Nichol On Feb 12, 2009, at 7:51 PM, Jim Nichol wrote: > The "Indiana Graphophone" nameplate in my pictures below is gone? I > wonder what happened to it? Do you have any pics of the machine with > the new nickel plating? I always intended to do that (and a new > decal), and I think Shawn was planning the same. What were you > saying about a gutta percha reproducer? I could never figure out if > the metal one in my pictures was an original or a repro. By the way, > remind me who "zono" is. I usually don't remember who the alias guys > are. > > Jim Nichol > jnichol@fuse.net > > On Feb 12, 2009, at 5:09 PM, Zonophone2006@aol.com wrote: > >> hi again >> shawn or someone did take the id plate off but its all the same still >> i wish i has the id plate too >> best to all >> zono >> >> >> In a message dated 2/11/2009 7:56:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >> jnichol@fuse.net writes: >> >> I sold my Columbia N in 2006 to Shawn O'Rourke (who's probably on >> Phono-L). There are still pictures of the N at: >> >> http://web.mac.com/jn45224/iWeb/Site/Library.html >> >> I don't know enough about Columbias to know what kind of >> reproducer is >> shown in the photos. But I believe it worked OK. >> >> Jim Nichol >> >> On Feb 11, 2009, at 5:35 PM, Raymond Wilenzick wrote: >> >>> Happy Tom Edison's Birthday to all. >>> >>> I have a Columbia Type N Graphophone in very nice mechanical >>> condition, but have a problem. When the #2 reproducer is lowered >>> to >>> playing position, the stylus does not quite contact the cylinder >>> surface on any cylinder I have tried. The reproducer support tube >>> is moving properly. Has anyone else seen this with a Type N, and >>> if >>> so what is the solution? I know the N was originally supplied with >>> the #1 gutta percha reproducer ( which I don't have!), and wonder >>> if >>> it was thicker than a #2. >>> Any suggestions would be appreciated. >>> >>> Ray >>> > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From majesticrecord at snet.net Sun Feb 15 11:56:46 2009 From: majesticrecord at snet.net (Glenn Longwell) Date: Sun Feb 15 15:56:53 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Victrola VV-240 in Brewster, NY References: <20090116.151536.1574.0@webmail20.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <475790.2867.qm@web83708.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Folks - there is a VV-240, later style with the curved top in Brewster, NY that a gentlemen is looking to get rid of as he clears out his house.? He and his wife are in their 80s and will be selling the house this year.? If you are interested please contact him at ammiels@gmail.com.? Name is Ammiel Schwartz.? I've been there and have seen it.? There are a few albums of 12" records with it.? The rest of the collection of records came home with me.? It's in solid condition, some wear spots, working fine, although the reproducer needs?new?gaskets and all?as it sounded terrible.? I already have a 240 so left it behind.? No price was really discussed as I didn't plan on bringing it home. Glenn From RROCRREC at aol.com Sun Feb 15 16:37:31 2009 From: RROCRREC at aol.com (RROCRREC@aol.com) Date: Sun Feb 15 16:37:42 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Re: Phono-L Digest, Vol 6, Issue 38 Message-ID: Dear Al: Orville White sold many items in his collection to Ray Phillips, parts to Tom Pollard and other machines to Elmer Jones and several other old timer collectors in California. The machine in question appears on Orville's "sale" list which I still have. The prices are all relevant to the income of the times but sure look cheap now. Gosh, a very long time ago, like 50 years or so. Will dig out that list but 1958 or 1959 sticks in my head. Larry **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=fe bemailfooterNO62) From ClockworkHome at aol.com Sun Feb 15 20:17:43 2009 From: ClockworkHome at aol.com (ClockworkHome@aol.com) Date: Sun Feb 15 20:17:51 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Re: Orville White's Sale List... Early Collector History... Message-ID: Dear Larry: I would love to have a copy of Orville's list and am especially interested in what he called his frankenphono. Please feel free to contact me off list. Orville White was diagnosed with a brain tumor and left us in 1969 or 1970 if my memory is correct. Many thanks for adding this to the history of collecting. I would bet that the list posted on this email forum would be greatly enjoyed by all. Today we see many items that are "original" but are really products of those early collectors. Few people today even know what a Frick's Freak horn is. Sadly they still appear on eBay as "original" though the Bond-O seams in the old peach can tin has started to separate and one wonders how many good cylinders have been ruined by his "Dual Speed Styli?" Kindest Regards to All, Al **************Need a job? Find an employment agency near you. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agencies&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000003) From wilenzick at bellsouth.net Mon Feb 16 12:26:22 2009 From: wilenzick at bellsouth.net (Raymond Wilenzick) Date: Mon Feb 16 12:26:13 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Reproducer wanted Message-ID: <000801c99074$d6066840$6401a8c0@Wilenzick> Does anyone know if reproduction Columbia black gutta percha reproducers, as used on the early Columbia cylinder phonos, are available anywhere. Jerry Madsen used to sell these, but they are all gone. Originals are nearly impossible to find, and prohibitively expensive if one could be located. Thanks for any information. Ray From zonophone at woh.rr.com Mon Feb 16 13:33:34 2009 From: zonophone at woh.rr.com (Gregory Cline) Date: Mon Feb 16 13:41:45 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Victor VI Base Cabinet for Sale....... Message-ID: <4C9E71710F4C46BB804A1EE787860E3C@GREGG> I would like to offer a Herzog model #820 disc record cabinet in Mahogany for sale to the group. This is the model that has Corinthian columns like that of the Victor VI but they are not gold plated. It is pictured in oak on page 110 of Fabrizio/Paul Gadgets and Gizmos book with a value code of VR. It has original finish but will probably need to be refinished to match your Victor VI as it is very dark. It is very solid and most veneer is intact. All of the carving is intact and good shape. The feet are good and complete. In fact the only problem spot, other then the very dark finish is on the upper left side, just below the top. There are a couple of small veneer chips here. On the right side same spot the veneer is cracked but completely intact. The brass pull outside and needle cup inside the door is also missing. All in all this is a very restorable piece to go with your Victor VI. These are very hard to find in any condition and much rarer than the machine itself...What better way to display your flagship machine than on a matching base cabinet! I am offering this as it is a duplicate for me. I am asking $7500 and have seen them for sale for over $10K. I would consider possible trades. I can offer free delivery to the North Carolina, Wayne or Union Shows this spring if that will help. I have pictures available upon request. Please contact me off list for further information or phone @ 419-424-1201. Thanks, Gregg Cline From john9ten at pacbell.net Mon Feb 16 21:30:27 2009 From: john9ten at pacbell.net (john robles) Date: Mon Feb 16 21:30:33 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Screws needed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <706281.44296.qm@web83006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi I am wondering if I can borrow that screw. Terry never got hold of me. Or maybe you can check with him?? I have a friend who is a machinist who can make me new ones. Thanks If you send me yours, my info is below. John Robles 290 Frances Street Ventura, CA 93003 --- On Wed, 2/4/09, C5fan@aol.com wrote: > From: C5fan@aol.com > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Screws needed > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 6:41 PM > The person to see about the shaver screws is Terry Baer at > _t@edisonTriumph.com_ (mailto:t@edisonTriumph.com) . If he > does not have extras, contact me > back. I may have a sample that I will need back, but you > can use it for sizing. > > > In a message dated 2/4/2009 9:52:07 A.M. Eastern Standard > Time, > lherault@bu.edu writes: > > If no one comes forward, John, and I'll bet George > Vollema can help, take > the shaver to an industrial mill supply store. They will > have all manner of > set screws from the minute to the massive, and should be > able to find > something to fit. I don't think Tom bothered to > re-invent the screw so they > should be a more or less standard thread and diameter. > Finding out which > standard will be the trick. 8-) > > Ron L > > -----Original Message----- > From: phono-l-bounces@oldcrank.org > [mailto:phono-l-bounces@oldcrank.org] On > Behalf Of john robles > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 1:16 AM > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: [Phono-L] Screws needed > > Hello all > I am in desperate need of a set of four screws for an > Edison Trimph shaving > device. I know these will be hard to get. Failing tha, > does anyone know the > thread on those so I can perhaps ge someting temporary til > I do find the > screws? > I would appreciat it very much! > Thanks > John > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > **************Who's never won? Biggest Grammy Award > surprises of all time on > AOL Music. > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?ncid=emlcntusmusi00000001) > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From john9ten at pacbell.net Mon Feb 16 21:34:27 2009 From: john9ten at pacbell.net (john robles) Date: Mon Feb 16 21:34:33 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Screws needed In-Reply-To: <706281.44296.qm@web83006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <920577.85787.qm@web83001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Sorry group, I thought I was responding to a private email. But I am still searching for the shaver screws for a Triumph. Also need a Vic III tonearm and elbow. Thanks John --- On Mon, 2/16/09, john robles wrote: > From: john robles > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Screws needed > To: "Antique Phonograph List" > Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 9:30 PM > Hi > I am wondering if I can borrow that screw. Terry never got > hold of me. Or maybe you can check with him?? > I have a friend who is a machinist who can make me new > ones. > Thanks > If you send me yours, my info is below. > > John Robles > 290 Frances Street > Ventura, CA 93003 > > > --- On Wed, 2/4/09, C5fan@aol.com > wrote: > > > From: C5fan@aol.com > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Screws needed > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 6:41 PM > > The person to see about the shaver screws is Terry > Baer at > > _t@edisonTriumph.com_ (mailto:t@edisonTriumph.com) . > If he > > does not have extras, contact me > > back. I may have a sample that I will need back, but > you > > can use it for sizing. > > > > > > In a message dated 2/4/2009 9:52:07 A.M. Eastern > Standard > > Time, > > lherault@bu.edu writes: > > > > If no one comes forward, John, and I'll bet > George > > Vollema can help, take > > the shaver to an industrial mill supply store. They > will > > have all manner of > > set screws from the minute to the massive, and should > be > > able to find > > something to fit. I don't think Tom bothered to > > re-invent the screw so they > > should be a more or less standard thread and diameter. > > > Finding out which > > standard will be the trick. 8-) > > > > Ron L > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: phono-l-bounces@oldcrank.org > > [mailto:phono-l-bounces@oldcrank.org] On > > Behalf Of john robles > > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 1:16 AM > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > Subject: [Phono-L] Screws needed > > > > Hello all > > I am in desperate need of a set of four screws for an > > Edison Trimph shaving > > device. I know these will be hard to get. Failing > tha, > > does anyone know the > > thread on those so I can perhaps ge someting > temporary til > > I do find the > > screws? > > I would appreciat it very much! > > Thanks > > John > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > > > **************Who's never won? Biggest Grammy > Award > > surprises of all time on > > AOL Music. > > > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?ncid=emlcntusmusi00000001) > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From slowpost at clear.net.nz Mon Feb 16 22:23:07 2009 From: slowpost at clear.net.nz (Mark Dawson) Date: Mon Feb 16 22:38:22 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] wanted case and lid or just lid for Columbia Graphophone BQ Crown. Message-ID: <001201c990c8$335ece80$0201a8c0@D69S8J1S> Greetings I am looking for a suitable lid to fit a Columbia Graphophone BQ Crown, but is it also known as Rex? If you have a spare case that would be good too! Cheers Mark slowpost@clear.net.nz From john9ten at pacbell.net Tue Feb 17 06:57:57 2009 From: john9ten at pacbell.net (john robles) Date: Tue Feb 17 06:58:02 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Victor Schoolhouse for sale - magnificent oak horn Message-ID: <477340.94417.qm@web83003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello al I am selling a VV-XXV, all original and undrestored (except for some changed screws on the hinges and the reproducer gaskets were changed. This was done a long time ago as they are black and not white. I think Frick used to sell the black stuff... Anyhow, it is as fond from the original owner's family. The metal is darkened or a little rusted,there's a lot of dust, but it still works. The finish is original, and the horn finish is very nice. I think it is a deal at $4300, as Bob Baumbach's book values these at $4000-$6000. Email me if you would like pictures, as I have taken many. Thanks John Robles From hawthorn at thoseoldrecords.com Tue Feb 17 11:33:43 2009 From: hawthorn at thoseoldrecords.com (Hawthorn's Antique Audio) Date: Tue Feb 17 11:33:51 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Pink Lamberts, Concert Cylinders and More For Sale Message-ID: <99516A50246B48179FB896058A00271E@Tom> Hi Everyone, Just a short note to let you know that we are listing some nice Pink Lamberts, 5" Concert cylinders, 6" Columbia 20th Century cylinders, phonograph parts & reproducers and other good stuff on eBay this week and for the next couple of weeks. You will find a direct link to our eBay listings on our website which is www.thoseoldrecords.com. Or you can email us at hawthorn@thoseoldrecords.com and we will send you a PDF file of the items we have scheduled foe eBay listings in the near future. Thanks! Tom Hawthorn Hawthorn's Antique Audio www.thoseoldrecords.com hawthorn@thoseoldrecords.com From Zonophone2006 at aol.com Tue Feb 17 15:09:34 2009 From: Zonophone2006 at aol.com (Zonophone2006@aol.com) Date: Tue Feb 17 15:10:23 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Pink Lamberts, Concert Cylinders and More For Sale Message-ID: hi love to get pdf file In a message dated 2/17/2009 2:35:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, hawthorn@thoseoldrecords.com writes: Hi Everyone, Just a short note to let you know that we are listing some nice Pink Lamberts, 5" Concert cylinders, 6" Columbia 20th Century cylinders, phonograph parts & reproducers and other good stuff on eBay this week and for the next couple of weeks. You will find a direct link to our eBay listings on our website which is www.thoseoldrecords.com. Or you can email us at hawthorn@thoseoldrecords.com and we will send you a PDF file of the items we have scheduled foe eBay listings in the near future. Thanks! Tom Hawthorn Hawthorn's Antique Audio www.thoseoldrecords.com hawthorn@thoseoldrecords.com _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=fe bemailfooterNO62) From C5fan at aol.com Tue Feb 17 19:05:42 2009 From: C5fan at aol.com (C5fan@aol.com) Date: Tue Feb 17 19:11:04 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Screws needed Message-ID: I just got off the phone with him. He found a full set and wants $20 for all 4. You can e-mail him at _t@edisonTriumph.com_ (mailto:t@edisonTriumph.com) or call him at 314-822-2328. Let me know if you can't connect with him. Thanks In a message dated 2/17/2009 12:30:55 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, john9ten@pacbell.net writes: Hi I am wondering if I can borrow that screw. Terry never got hold of me. Or maybe you can check with him?? I have a friend who is a machinist who can make me new ones. Thanks If you send me yours, my info is below. John Robles 290 Frances Street Ventura, CA 93003 --- On Wed, 2/4/09, C5fan@aol.com wrote: > From: C5fan@aol.com > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Screws needed > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 6:41 PM > The person to see about the shaver screws is Terry Baer at > _t@edisonTriumph.com_ (mailto:t@edisonTriumph.com) . If he > does not have extras, contact me > back. I may have a sample that I will need back, but you > can use it for sizing. > > > In a message dated 2/4/2009 9:52:07 A.M. Eastern Standard > Time, > lherault@bu.edu writes: > > If no one comes forward, John, and I'll bet George > Vollema can help, take > the shaver to an industrial mill supply store. They will > have all manner of > set screws from the minute to the massive, and should be > able to find > something to fit. I don't think Tom bothered to > re-invent the screw so they > should be a more or less standard thread and diameter. > Finding out which > standard will be the trick. 8-) > > Ron L > > -----Original Message----- > From: phono-l-bounces@oldcrank.org > [mailto:phono-l-bounces@oldcrank.org] On > Behalf Of john robles > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 1:16 AM > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: [Phono-L] Screws needed > > Hello all > I am in desperate need of a set of four screws for an > Edison Trimph shaving > device. I know these will be hard to get. Failing tha, > does anyone know the > thread on those so I can perhaps ge someting temporary til > I do find the > screws? > I would appreciat it very much! > Thanks > John > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > **************Who's never won? Biggest Grammy Award > surprises of all time on > AOL Music. > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?ncid=emlcntusmusi00000001) > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **************You can't always choose whom you love, but you can choose how to find them. Start with AOL Personals. (http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove00000002) From john9ten at pacbell.net Tue Feb 17 19:39:53 2009 From: john9ten at pacbell.net (john robles) Date: Tue Feb 17 19:40:00 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Screws needed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <524117.594.qm@web83007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I'm really thrilled, thanks so much! I have emailed him with a copy to you. John --- On Tue, 2/17/09, C5fan@aol.com wrote: > From: C5fan@aol.com > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Screws needed > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Cc: t@edisonTriumph.com > Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 7:05 PM > I just got off the phone with him. He found a full set and > wants $20 for all > 4. You can e-mail him at _t@edisonTriumph.com_ > (mailto:t@edisonTriumph.com) > or call him at 314-822-2328. Let me know if you can't > connect with him. Thanks > > > In a message dated 2/17/2009 12:30:55 A.M. Eastern Standard > Time, > john9ten@pacbell.net writes: > > Hi > I am wondering if I can borrow that screw. Terry never got > hold of me. Or > maybe you can check with him?? > I have a friend who is a machinist who can make me new > ones. > Thanks > If you send me yours, my info is below. > > John Robles > 290 Frances Street > Ventura, CA 93003 > > > --- On Wed, 2/4/09, C5fan@aol.com > wrote: > > > From: C5fan@aol.com > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Screws needed > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 6:41 PM > > The person to see about the shaver screws is Terry > Baer at > > _t@edisonTriumph.com_ (mailto:t@edisonTriumph.com) . > If he > > does not have extras, contact me > > back. I may have a sample that I will need back, > but you > > can use it for sizing. > > > > > > In a message dated 2/4/2009 9:52:07 A.M. Eastern > Standard > > Time, > > lherault@bu.edu writes: > > > > If no one comes forward, John, and I'll bet > George > > Vollema can help, take > > the shaver to an industrial mill supply store. They > will > > have all manner of > > set screws from the minute to the massive, and should > be > > able to find > > something to fit. I don't think Tom bothered to > > re-invent the screw so they > > should be a more or less standard thread and > diameter. > > Finding out which > > standard will be the trick. 8-) > > > > Ron L > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: phono-l-bounces@oldcrank.org > > [mailto:phono-l-bounces@oldcrank.org] On > > Behalf Of john robles > > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 1:16 AM > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > Subject: [Phono-L] Screws needed > > > > Hello all > > I am in desperate need of a set of four screws for > an > > Edison Trimph shaving > > device. I know these will be hard to get. Failing > tha, > > does anyone know the > > thread on those so I can perhaps ge someting > temporary til > > I do find the > > screws? > > I would appreciat it very much! > > Thanks > > John > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > > > **************Who's never won? Biggest Grammy > Award > > surprises of all time on > > AOL Music. > > > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?ncid=emlcntusmusi00000001) > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > **************You can't always choose whom you love, > but you can choose how > to find them. Start with AOL Personals. > (http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove00000002) > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From johnws at toast.net Wed Feb 18 21:11:53 2009 From: johnws at toast.net (John Sheets) Date: Wed Feb 18 21:11:54 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] About Brunswick Ultona Message-ID: <000401c99250$955144e0$bff3cea0$@net> I wonder if anybody has hints or tips on replacing the springs on the lid hinges for an Ultona? I have the springs but can't figure how to get at the hinges. Thanks in advance for any tips- John Sheets From majesticrecord at snet.net Thu Feb 19 04:36:49 2009 From: majesticrecord at snet.net (Glenn Longwell) Date: Thu Feb 19 04:36:55 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Grafonola De Luxe value References: <000401c99250$955144e0$bff3cea0$@net> Message-ID: <652402.37313.qm@web83715.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I had someone contact me wondering what?the value of his machine is as?he'd like to sell it.? It's currently in climate controlled storage.?? I checked Baumbach's Columbia?book and it's a?Columbia Grafonola De Luxe (first style).? It's in excellent condition as far I can tell from the low res photos.? I'd be interested myself except it's in southern California and not worth dragging over to the other coast.? It has rounded sides and front, carved lion's heads and is quite impressive looking.? Thanks, Glenn From lherault at bu.edu Thu Feb 19 06:26:19 2009 From: lherault at bu.edu (Ron L) Date: Thu Feb 19 06:26:49 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] About Brunswick Ultona In-Reply-To: <000401c99250$955144e0$bff3cea0$@net> References: <000401c99250$955144e0$bff3cea0$@net> Message-ID: <001501c9929e$084aaed0$79d6299b@ad.bu.edu> Have you removed the motor to look inside? Ron L -----Original Message----- From: phono-l-bounces@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of John Sheets Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:12 AM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] About Brunswick Ultona I wonder if anybody has hints or tips on replacing the springs on the lid hinges for an Ultona? I have the springs but can't figure how to get at the hinges. Thanks in advance for any tips- John Sheets _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From bruce78rpm at comcast.net Thu Feb 19 06:36:03 2009 From: bruce78rpm at comcast.net (bruce78rpm@comcast.net) Date: Thu Feb 19 06:36:07 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] About Brunswick Ultona In-Reply-To: <001501c9929e$084aaed0$79d6299b@ad.bu.edu> Message-ID: <250314610.51941235054163345.JavaMail.root@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Yes, I was going to suggest that as well. I replaced a spring on my Brunswick Panatrope crank style a couple of years ago and it was as simple as that. Just removing the motor gave you access to the springs so you could replace the broken one. Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron L" To: "Antique Phonograph List" Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 9:26:19 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [Phono-L] About Brunswick Ultona Have you removed the motor to look inside? Ron L -----Original Message----- From: phono-l-bounces@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of John Sheets Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:12 AM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] About Brunswick Ultona I wonder if anybody has hints or tips on replacing the springs on the lid hinges for an Ultona? I have the springs but can't figure how to get at the hinges. Thanks in advance for any tips- John Sheets _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From vtm12 at comcast.net Thu Feb 19 08:04:22 2009 From: vtm12 at comcast.net (vtm12@comcast.net) Date: Thu Feb 19 08:12:43 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Grafonola De Luxe value In-Reply-To: <376607186.139991235059428275.JavaMail.root@sz0113a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <851930669.140431235059462461.JavaMail.root@sz0113a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I have one in excellent original condition.? I offered it for sale to this list some time back for $6500.? I only offered it once, but it has not sold. Here is a link to the machine. http://home.comcast.net/~vtm12/sale/sale.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Longwell" To: "Antique Phonograph List" Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:36:49 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [Phono-L] Grafonola De Luxe value I had someone contact me wondering what?the value of his machine is as?he'd like to sell it.? It's currently in climate controlled storage.?? I checked Baumbach's Columbia?book and it's a?Columbia Grafonola De Luxe (first style).? It's in excellent condition as far I can tell from the low res photos.? I'd be interested myself except it's in southern California and not worth dragging over to the other coast.? It has rounded sides and front, carved lion's heads and is quite impressive looking.? Thanks, Glenn _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From johnws at toast.net Thu Feb 19 11:24:29 2009 From: johnws at toast.net (John SHEETS) Date: Thu Feb 19 11:30:10 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] About Brunswick Ultona In-Reply-To: <250314610.51941235054163345.JavaMail.root@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <001501c9929e$084aaed0$79d6299b@ad.bu.edu> <250314610.51941235054163345.JavaMail.root@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <3333d57d0902191124h140b0d27la70b2d2cc7dffd2@mail.gmail.com> Thanks for your suggestions, gentlemen. I have pulled the motor and could reach in and feel the spring but not see it. I will try again. Cheers-- John S. On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 6:36 AM, wrote: > Yes, I was going to suggest that as well. I replaced a spring on my > Brunswick Panatrope crank style a couple of years ago and it was as simple > as that. Just removing the motor gave you access to the springs so you could > replace the broken one. > > Bruce > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron L" > To: "Antique Phonograph List" > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 9:26:19 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: RE: [Phono-L] About Brunswick Ultona > > Have you removed the motor to look inside? > > Ron L > > -----Original Message----- > From: phono-l-bounces@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces@oldcrank.org] > On > Behalf Of John Sheets > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:12 AM > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: [Phono-L] About Brunswick Ultona > > I wonder if anybody has hints or tips on replacing the springs on the lid > hinges for an Ultona? I have the springs but can't figure how to get at the > hinges. > > Thanks in advance for any tips- > > > > > > John Sheets > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > -- John S. From john9ten at pacbell.net Thu Feb 19 21:37:56 2009 From: john9ten at pacbell.net (john robles) Date: Thu Feb 19 21:38:02 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Pics of Victor Schoolhouse Message-ID: <728851.90332.qm@web83002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> For those interested, here is a link to pics of the VV-XXV that I am selling. The owner said he would take $3900 for it (less than the original asking price!). The flash lightened the color a bit. The picture where the horn is resting on the bell is what it actually looks like, all nice orig finish. The mahine is completely original and untouched except for some hinge screws that have been replaced and also the reproducer was regasketed some years back with black gasket amterial. The flange is original. http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/VV-XXV/ John Robles From majesticrecord at snet.net Fri Feb 20 05:03:49 2009 From: majesticrecord at snet.net (Glenn Longwell) Date: Fri Feb 20 05:03:56 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Grafonola De Luxe value References: <851930669.140431235059462461.JavaMail.root@sz0113a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <552372.33906.qm@web83704.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Thanks.? Those are much better pictures that the ones I got from the other person.? Now I can clearly see what a nice machine it is. Glenn ________________________________ From: "vtm12@comcast.net" To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:04:22 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Grafonola De Luxe value I have one in excellent original condition.? I offered it for sale to this list some time back for $6500.? I only offered it once, but it has not sold. Here is a link to the machine. http://home.comcast.net/~vtm12/sale/sale.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Longwell" To: "Antique Phonograph List" Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:36:49 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [Phono-L] Grafonola De Luxe value I had someone contact me wondering what?the value of his machine is as?he'd like to sell it.? It's currently in climate controlled storage.?? I checked Baumbach's Columbia?book and it's a?Columbia Grafonola De Luxe (first style).? It's in excellent condition as far I can tell from the low res photos.? I'd be interested myself except it's in southern California and not worth dragging over to the other coast.? It has rounded sides and front, carved lion's heads and is quite impressive looking.? Thanks, Glenn _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From wilenzick at bellsouth.net Fri Feb 20 08:36:19 2009 From: wilenzick at bellsouth.net (Raymond Wilenzick) Date: Fri Feb 20 08:36:25 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Phonographs and the economy Message-ID: <001001c99379$5c65a160$6401a8c0@Wilenzick> A friend asked me if this is a good time to sell his phonographs, or should he wait for better times? So, how has this economic disaster we are in affected our hobby? Common machines are selling for less than they did 20 years ago. Better ones are holding some value, but even they are down from a few years ago. Are the truly rare phonos, that usually trade privately between collectors, still selling to collectors with deep pockets? Is the hobby declining in interest from new collectors? Are phonos selling at the shows? Any comments along these lines would be interesting to hear. Ray From Phonophan at aol.com Fri Feb 20 09:52:31 2009 From: Phonophan at aol.com (Phonophan@aol.com) Date: Fri Feb 20 09:57:49 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Phonographs and the economy Message-ID: >From my experience --- the interest in the hobby is not declining -- in fact new people are coming along every day -- it's just that the market has slumped badly. When the market slumps everything becomes "relative." It's not the end, it's just an adjusted present. It's done this before. There were the late 80s, the mid 90s, briefly in 2001. Within the sphere of the "usual suspects," that is the Wayne Show, Danbury, Union, eBay, prices are likely to be depressed for several years. Will it all wither and die ? -- no. It never does. People have been predicting the death of the hobby for years, as crackpots have been predicting the end of the world. Neither is likely to occur any time soon. Tim Fabrizio phonophan PO Box 747 Henrietta, NY 14467 TEL 585 582 1586 FAX 585 582 2624 Web site: www.phonophan.com **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) From lherault at bu.edu Fri Feb 20 10:20:25 2009 From: lherault at bu.edu (Ron L) Date: Fri Feb 20 10:20:59 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Phonographs and the economy In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003401c99387$e6727aa0$79d6299b@ad.bu.edu> I'm not so sure how much it has slumped either. At a local auction last week, a black case Gem, the lid to which was falling apart, went for $400. Another bidder ponied up over $600 for an incomplete home with a (nice) O reproducer. Ron L -----Original Message----- From: phono-l-bounces@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Phonophan@aol.com Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 12:53 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phonographs and the economy >From my experience --- the interest in the hobby is not declining -- in fact new people are coming along every day -- it's just that the market has slumped badly. When the market slumps everything becomes "relative." It's not the end, it's just an adjusted present. It's done this before. There were the late 80s, the mid 90s, briefly in 2001. Within the sphere of the "usual suspects," that is the Wayne Show, Danbury, Union, eBay, prices are likely to be depressed for several years. Will it all wither and die ? -- no. It never does. People have been predicting the death of the hobby for years, as crackpots have been predicting the end of the world. Neither is likely to occur any time soon. Tim Fabrizio phonophan PO Box 747 Henrietta, NY 14467 TEL 585 582 1586 FAX 585 582 2624 Web site: www.phonophan.com **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=htt p:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From cenfin at comcast.net Fri Feb 20 10:18:01 2009 From: cenfin at comcast.net (Albert) Date: Fri Feb 20 10:23:40 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Phonographs and the economy References: <001001c99379$5c65a160$6401a8c0@Wilenzick> Message-ID: <001501c99387$90f827a0$7501a8c0@Albert> Ray, I think there is a downturn in all collectibles. I just saw a Victrola 12 on ebay sell for $499. and it went to the only one bidder. Eight years ago there were two at Union and they both sold for $1200. I knew one buyer and he was thrilled to get it. I also saw a BY with the correct matching serpentine cabinet, no bidders at $7500. I remember that the same set sold at the Cecil Dancer auction for $12,000. That must have been 5 years ago. Even Operas that were 7500. to 8000. are now selling on ebay for 6k. Thats just my observation, but I have reavaluated my collection down 30% as I will need to project for my retirement. Al Menashe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raymond Wilenzick" To: ; Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 8:36 AM Subject: [Phono-L] Phonographs and the economy A friend asked me if this is a good time to sell his phonographs, or should he wait for better times? So, how has this economic disaster we are in affected our hobby? Common machines are selling for less than they did 20 years ago. Better ones are holding some value, but even they are down from a few years ago. Are the truly rare phonos, that usually trade privately between collectors, still selling to collectors with deep pockets? Is the hobby declining in interest from new collectors? Are phonos selling at the shows? Any comments along these lines would be interesting to hear. Ray _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From phonolist at mac.com Fri Feb 20 10:30:01 2009 From: phonolist at mac.com (phonolist@mac.com) Date: Fri Feb 20 11:30:50 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Phonographs and the economy In-Reply-To: <001001c99379$5c65a160$6401a8c0@Wilenzick> References: <001001c99379$5c65a160$6401a8c0@Wilenzick> Message-ID: Ray; I can share my personal perspective on this. With all of the talk of doom and gloom, I had vowed to be prudent and to hold onto my money and not to buy any phonographs at this time. Well, of course I was offered a phonograph that I had been wanting for a while. The seller was a very knowledgeable collector. The machine was what I would term a very scarce variation of a somewhat scarce model (how's that for being vague), and I had only seen one other offered before in 30 years of collecting. The price was twice what the standard model is currently selling for, but I bought it. It was, however, half the price of the only other example that I have seen, a few years ago at Union. My feeling is that all levels of the hobby have been effected, with the very rare items much less effected than the common items. I believe that even with one-of-a-kind instruments, that buyers are expecting to pay less. With common items, buyers are tending to sit on the sidelines unless the price is absolutely irresistible. On FridayFebruary 20, 2009, at 8:36 AM, Raymond Wilenzick wrote: > A friend asked me if this is a good time to sell his phonographs, or > should he wait for better times? So, how has this economic disaster > we are in affected our hobby? Common machines are selling for less > than they did 20 years ago. Better ones are holding some value, but > even they are down from a few years ago. Are the truly rare phonos, > that usually trade privately between collectors, still selling to > collectors with deep pockets? Is the hobby declining in interest > from new collectors? Are phonos selling at the shows? Any comments > along these lines would be interesting to hear. > > Ray > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From harveykravitz at yahoo.com Fri Feb 20 15:50:50 2009 From: harveykravitz at yahoo.com (harvey kravitz) Date: Fri Feb 20 15:50:57 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Phonographs and the economy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <54906.96330.qm@web54301.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi Group, I too, have noticed a down turn on the price of phonographs in the past few years. They are getting cheaper. I have seen many good deals with fellow collectors,? Ruby Lane, Craigslist and the local paper. In these hard economic times, this is an excellent time to buy. I would caution selling, though. My basement is full of machines(common ones) ready to sell. I have put a lot of time restoring them and I will not give them away. The economy will get better. This is a buyer's market for now.? Harvey P. Kravitz. --- On Fri, 2/20/09, phonolist@mac.com wrote: From: phonolist@mac.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phonographs and the economy To: "Antique Phonograph List" Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 10:30 AM Ray; I can share my personal perspective on this. With all of the talk of doom and gloom, I had vowed to be prudent and to hold onto my money and not to buy any phonographs at this time. Well, of course I was offered a phonograph that I had been wanting for a while. The seller was a very knowledgeable collector. The machine was what I would term a very scarce variation of a somewhat scarce model (how's that for being vague), and I had only seen one other offered before in 30 years of collecting. The price was twice what the standard model is currently selling for, but I bought it. It was, however, half the price of the only other example that I have seen, a few years ago at Union. My feeling is that all levels of the hobby have been effected, with the very rare items much less effected than the common items. I believe that even with one-of-a-kind instruments, that buyers are expecting to pay less. With common items, buyers are tending to sit on the sidelines unless the price is absolutely irresistible. On FridayFebruary 20, 2009, at 8:36 AM, Raymond Wilenzick wrote: > A friend asked me if this is a good time to sell his phonographs, or should he wait for better times? So, how has this economic disaster we are in affected our hobby? Common machines are selling for less than they did 20 years ago. Better ones are holding some value, but even they are down from a few years ago. Are the truly rare phonos, that usually trade privately between collectors, still selling to collectors with deep pockets? Is the hobby declining in interest from new collectors? Are phonos selling at the shows? Any comments along these lines would be interesting to hear. > > Ray > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From ret.armysgt at yahoo.com Fri Feb 20 16:03:50 2009 From: ret.armysgt at yahoo.com (William Buchanan) Date: Fri Feb 20 16:10:36 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Phonographs and the economy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <532303.50872.qm@web57511.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Tim, Good observations, I am new to this hobby (less than 8 months now) and since I have joined I have seen several others gain interest as well. I don't think the hobby is dying but a lot of the older hobbyist perhaps are not as active this could be because of the age of some of the people that you are used to seeing. I do not have the funds available to purchase many of the items that people are talking about but that I hope this is only a temporary set back while I am getting my disability resolved with the VA and the Federal Government. Once that has been secured than I will be able to purchase some of the wonderful machines that are out there. I used to be involved in Model Railroads many years back. I used to hear the same from many of the older hobbyist there as well. Well it's been about fifteen years and Lionel is still with us and they are making engines that cost over one thousand dollars just for the engine and tender. That is not a dying hobby. Nor is this, I have spoken to hobbyist here in the states, UK and other countries. It seems that the hobby is alive and well. Once the economy turns around and people are not fearful of losing their jobs I believe that we will see an increase in the cost of the players. Lets face it nobody is making these anymore. Currently because of my situation I am trying to find old players to salvage and bring them back to life. I am doing this for two reasons, one is therapy (because of my injuries) the other is because I can't afford a nice show room piece that is working.? This gives me a nice machine that I not only can look at and enjoy but also the feeling of accomplishing something by bringing something back. The hobby may be a little slow right now but it is far from being dead. Bill Buchanan Army Vet --- On Fri, 2/20/09, Phonophan@aol.com wrote: From: Phonophan@aol.com Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phonographs and the economy To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 12:52 PM >From my experience --- the interest in the hobby is not declining -- in fact new people are coming along every day -- it's just that the market has slumped badly. When the market slumps everything becomes "relative." It's not the end, it's just an adjusted present. It's done this before. There were the late 80s, the mid 90s, briefly in 2001. Within the sphere of the "usual suspects," that is the Wayne Show, Danbury, Union, eBay, prices are likely to be depressed for several years. Will it all wither and die ? -- no. It never does. People have been predicting the death of the hobby for years, as crackpots have been predicting the end of the world. Neither is likely to occur any time soon. Tim Fabrizio phonophan PO Box 747 Henrietta, NY 14467 TEL 585 582 1586 FAX 585 582 2624 Web site: www.phonophan.com **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From Filerphono at bellsouth.net Fri Feb 20 16:58:01 2009 From: Filerphono at bellsouth.net (Filerphono@bellsouth.net) Date: Fri Feb 20 17:08:02 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Victor Clock - Advertising Message-ID: <000601c993bf$73518a10$6702a8c0@JILLJOE> OK, experts, please comment on this clock, ebay item number 170303851254. I know you have already seen it, so, is it real or fake? Thanks, Joe From john9ten at pacbell.net Fri Feb 20 17:31:30 2009 From: john9ten at pacbell.net (john robles) Date: Fri Feb 20 17:31:35 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Victor Clock - Advertising In-Reply-To: <000601c993bf$73518a10$6702a8c0@JILLJOE> Message-ID: <659179.98221.qm@web83004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Fake. It's been on ebay before. --- On Fri, 2/20/09, Filerphono@bellsouth.net wrote: > From: Filerphono@bellsouth.net > Subject: [Phono-L] Victor Clock - Advertising > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 4:58 PM > OK, experts, please comment on this clock, ebay item number > 170303851254. I know you have already seen it, so, is it > real or fake? Thanks, Joe > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From AllenAmet at aol.com Fri Feb 20 17:46:00 2009 From: AllenAmet at aol.com (AllenAmet@aol.com) Date: Fri Feb 20 17:51:15 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Victor Clock - Advertising Message-ID: In a message dated 2/20/2009 8:32:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, john9ten@pacbell.net writes: Fake. It's been on ebay before. -------------- agreed - very suspect and too 'pristine'. Even the explanation for the item being a Private Auction sounds hokey. Allen **************Need a job? Find an employment agency near you. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agencies&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000003) From waykos at shaw.ca Sat Feb 21 12:07:10 2009 From: waykos at shaw.ca (wayne) Date: Sat Feb 21 12:07:04 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Victor clock Message-ID: <2008F9A517B64AA185A7879366608D51@waynePC> Is not the same seller that was selling the same clock,BUT was Columbia instead???. From loran at oldcrank.com Sat Feb 21 12:15:05 2009 From: loran at oldcrank.com (Loran Hughes) Date: Sat Feb 21 12:15:08 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Victor Clock - Advertising In-Reply-To: <000601c993bf$73518a10$6702a8c0@JILLJOE> References: <000601c993bf$73518a10$6702a8c0@JILLJOE> Message-ID: <788068BA-900A-4CC6-884F-778AA22E3501@oldcrank.com> Ick. In addition to the nonsense on the clock face, the glass in front of the pendulum looks like it has new decals. It's currently bid up to $1276 (reserve not met) - hope the winner knows he/she is getting a $350 clock. Loran On Feb 20, 2009, at 4:58 PM, wrote: > OK, experts, please comment on this clock, ebay item number > 170303851254. I know you have already seen it, so, is it real or > fake? Thanks, Joe From rich-mail at octoxol.com Sat Feb 21 13:14:33 2009 From: rich-mail at octoxol.com (Rich) Date: Sat Feb 21 13:14:39 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Victor Clock - Advertising In-Reply-To: <788068BA-900A-4CC6-884F-778AA22E3501@oldcrank.com> References: <000601c993bf$73518a10$6702a8c0@JILLJOE> <788068BA-900A-4CC6-884F-778AA22E3501@oldcrank.com> Message-ID: <49A06EB9.5030301@octoxol.com> There are some of these that are genuine, damn few though. The clock looks to be old and in good condition. The fakes are made by over printing the old dial with the advertising artwork. The way to spot them is to see if the ink is on top of the dirt or underneath it. This is impossible from a digital picture. Loran Hughes wrote: > Ick. In addition to the nonsense on the clock face, the glass in front > of the pendulum looks like it has new decals. It's currently bid up to > $1276 (reserve not met) - hope the winner knows he/she is getting a $350 > clock. > > Loran > > On Feb 20, 2009, at 4:58 PM, wrote: > >> OK, experts, please comment on this clock, ebay item number >> 170303851254. I know you have already seen it, so, is it real or fake? >> Thanks, Joe > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > From Tubanuts at aol.com Sat Feb 21 13:40:44 2009 From: Tubanuts at aol.com (Tubanuts@aol.com) Date: Sat Feb 21 13:45:55 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Victor clock Message-ID: This one appears fake as the movement picture shows a sprocket wheel in the center which would run a 31 day calendar hand. The face does not have a date scale. **************Need a job? Find an employment agency near you. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agencies&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000003) From nipper at dataex.com Sat Feb 21 12:33:03 2009 From: nipper at dataex.com (Robin Rolfs) Date: Sat Feb 21 14:56:33 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Victor Advertising Clock Message-ID: Greetings Clock Watchers, We believe the Sessions clock movement and most of the case to be real, however the Nipper/Victor advertising we believe is fake. There was a clock similar to this one (but not the same) on EBay a few years ago when we were writing the book on Nipper Collectibles. You will not find this clock in the book, because we could not find any verification that this clock was ever made for the Victor Company. If the clock was an advertising clock made for a dealer, we feel the dealer's name and address would be stenciled somewhere on the clock. The Nipper trademark looks strange like the base is cut at an odd angle. Also, the Arial font with straight quotes for "His Master's Voice" isn't correct. The red lettering looks to be in incredibly good shape. I would think there would be some darkening of the letters in the areas where there's browning. In regard to fakes, Nipper cast iron banks found on page 5-69 of our Nipper Collectibles book have been selling for incredible prices. They are made to look old and rusted, however they are the fantasy Nipper banks made in the 1990's. Robin & Joan Rolfs Visit us at: www.audioantique.com From rich-mail at octoxol.com Sat Feb 21 19:26:59 2009 From: rich-mail at octoxol.com (Rich) Date: Sat Feb 21 19:27:12 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Victor Advertising Clock In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49A0C603.9010501@octoxol.com> Many genuine old clocks in decent condition have been turned into advertising clocks by enterprising dealers from the early 50s. That makes them old enough to fool most people now. The red should have faded or browned by now if it was 75 years old. Even if it was a local production for a couple of dealers. Robin Rolfs wrote: > Greetings Clock Watchers, > > We believe the Sessions clock movement and most of the case to be real, > however the Nipper/Victor advertising we believe is fake. There was a > clock similar to this one (but not the same) on EBay a few years ago > when we were writing the book on Nipper Collectibles. You will not > find this clock in the book, because we could not find any verification > that this clock was ever made for the Victor Company. If the clock was > an advertising clock made for a dealer, we feel the dealer's name and > address would be stenciled somewhere on the clock. The Nipper trademark > looks strange like the base is cut at an odd angle. Also, the Arial > font with straight quotes for "His Master's Voice" isn't correct. The > red lettering looks to be in incredibly good shape. I would think there > would be some darkening of the letters in the areas where there's browning. > > In regard to fakes, Nipper cast iron banks found on page 5-69 of our > Nipper Collectibles book have been selling for incredible prices. They > are made to look old and rusted, however they are the fantasy Nipper > banks made in the 1990's. > > > Robin & Joan Rolfs > Visit us at: > www.audioantique.com > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > From MDSorter at aol.com Sat Feb 21 20:07:04 2009 From: MDSorter at aol.com (MDSorter@aol.com) Date: Sat Feb 21 20:12:18 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Edison bedplates Message-ID: Hello all, I have only stripped a few bedplates in my time for repainting and I have always done it the hard way with lots of sanding and elbow grease. Can anyone give me some tips on stripping away the old paint on Standard/Home bedplates to get a smooth base with which to spray on primer? I don't have access to a sandblaster. I'm working on a Standard model B bedplate now. There was some rust and lots of bubbles in the existing paint that I have stripped away. Of course this leaves the surface uneven for priming. There must be an easy way to do this! Any advice is appreciated! Thanks! Mike Sorter ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D6680 72%26hmpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) From MDSorter at aol.com Sat Feb 21 20:11:51 2009 From: MDSorter at aol.com (MDSorter@aol.com) Date: Sat Feb 21 20:17:10 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Victor 1-2 decals (Gregg Cline?) Message-ID: I have a Victor Victrola 1-1 which I have painted white. It is a project to give to my 5 year old daughter who LOVES to play any of my phonographs. This is one for her. I thought of putting a Disney theme on it with her favorite princess characters. But, I still think that I would like to make it into a true 1-2, with the correct decals. Sorry I don't have Gregg Cline's e-mail address, but I know he is on the phono list. Gregg--can you make/have those decals? Or is there someone else on the list who may have some advice? Thanks! Mike Sorter ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D6680 72%26hmpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) From john9ten at pacbell.net Sat Feb 21 20:19:17 2009 From: john9ten at pacbell.net (john robles) Date: Sat Feb 21 20:19:22 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] On the subject of decals.. Message-ID: <755555.74680.qm@web83007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Anyone know where I can get the transfer type Edison decal? The one you rub off the backing, not the water slide type. Thanks John Robles From bjohnson at mrvictor.com Sat Feb 21 21:47:15 2009 From: bjohnson at mrvictor.com (bob johnson) Date: Sat Feb 21 21:54:59 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Victor 1-2 decals (Gregg Cline?) References: Message-ID: <935BBC0E83D2468DB2A8E66D5529CA4F@YOURYFKID5ZE56> Mike - Gregg did make the decals for the 1-2. He used my 1-2 for his pictures. I am sure he can supply a set for you. I am not home now so I can't give you his email address. Bob Johnson ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor 1-2 decals (Gregg Cline?) >I have a Victor Victrola 1-1 which I have painted white. It is a project >to > give to my 5 year old daughter who LOVES to play any of my phonographs. > This > is one for her. I thought of putting a Disney theme on it with her > favorite > princess characters. But, I still think that I would like to make it into > a > true 1-2, with the correct decals. Sorry I don't have Gregg Cline's > e-mail > address, but I know he is on the phono list. Gregg--can you make/have > those > decals? Or is there someone else on the list who may have some advice? > > Thanks! > > Mike Sorter > > > ************** > A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in > just 2 easy steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D6680 > 72%26hmpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > From MDSorter at aol.com Sat Feb 21 23:14:13 2009 From: MDSorter at aol.com (MDSorter@aol.com) Date: Sat Feb 21 23:19:26 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Victor 1-2 decals (Gregg Cline?) Message-ID: Thanks Bob! I'm sure I will be able to get his e-mail address from someone on the list. Mike ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hm pgID%3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) From Zonophone2006 at aol.com Sat Feb 21 23:40:22 2009 From: Zonophone2006 at aol.com (Zonophone2006@aol.com) Date: Sat Feb 21 23:40:32 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Victor Clock - Advertising Message-ID: its and old clock sessions is a good connecticut clock but the dial is repro someone put some out too with columbia and edison same clock company and clock In a message dated 2/20/2009 8:32:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, john9ten@pacbell.net writes: Fake. It's been on ebay before. --- On Fri, 2/20/09, Filerphono@bellsouth.net wrote: > From: Filerphono@bellsouth.net > Subject: [Phono-L] Victor Clock - Advertising > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 4:58 PM > OK, experts, please comment on this clock, ebay item number > 170303851254. I know you have already seen it, so, is it > real or fake? Thanks, Joe > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) From Aph4990 at aol.com Sat Feb 21 23:36:31 2009 From: Aph4990 at aol.com (Aph4990@aol.com) Date: Sat Feb 21 23:42:04 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Victor 1-2 decals (Gregg Cline?) Message-ID: For Gregg Cline try _gkcline@bright.net_ (mailto:gkcline@bright.net) ---Art Heller **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) From john9ten at pacbell.net Sun Feb 22 02:24:55 2009 From: john9ten at pacbell.net (john robles) Date: Sun Feb 22 02:25:01 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Triumph Shaver Screws Found! Message-ID: <363066.84649.qm@web83008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello gang Thanks to a Phono-L group member's lead, I was able to find a set of screws for my Triumph shaver at a very reasonable price. I never thought i wold find an original set. Again the group has provided a solution! Thanks to all. Jon Robles From edisonphonoworks at hotmail.com Sun Feb 22 08:34:36 2009 From: edisonphonoworks at hotmail.com (Thomas Edison) Date: Sun Feb 22 08:41:07 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Triumph F for sale Message-ID: http://members.tripod.com/~Edison_1/id26.html $800.00 price. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Hotmail?:?more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_explore_022009 From bruce78rpm at comcast.net Sun Feb 22 09:01:18 2009 From: bruce78rpm at comcast.net (bruce78rpm@comcast.net) Date: Sun Feb 22 09:01:22 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Triumph F for sale In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1666948701.836641235322078613.JavaMail.root@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> How do we see the phonograph when we go to that site? I keep clicking on the items at the bottom but it doesn't take me anywhere. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Edison" To: "phono L" Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 11:34:36 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [Phono-L] Triumph F for sale http://members.tripod.com/~Edison_1/id26.html $800.00 price. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Hotmail?:?more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_explore_022009_______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From bruce78rpm at comcast.net Sun Feb 22 09:02:59 2009 From: bruce78rpm at comcast.net (bruce78rpm@comcast.net) Date: Sun Feb 22 09:03:02 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Triumph F for sale In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <56209781.836881235322179021.JavaMail.root@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> whoops, sorry, I forgot to scroll down, silly me. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Edison" To: "phono L" Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 11:34:36 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [Phono-L] Triumph F for sale http://members.tripod.com/~Edison_1/id26.html $800.00 price. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Hotmail?:?more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_explore_022009_______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From john9ten at pacbell.net Sun Feb 22 11:19:31 2009 From: john9ten at pacbell.net (john robles) Date: Sun Feb 22 11:19:40 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Was this plated after sale? Message-ID: <214554.23115.qm@web83003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> There's an item on ebay, a mahogany Triumph with nickel bedplate. Was the ID plate also plated over, or was it applied after plating? I am trying to decide f this was plated after sale or palted at the factoy. Ebay item number is 170304668674. I have known this dealer to be less than honest in the past. It probably won't sell with the $12,500 buy it now price. From MDSorter at aol.com Sun Feb 22 13:30:52 2009 From: MDSorter at aol.com (MDSorter@aol.com) Date: Sun Feb 22 13:31:02 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Victor 1-2 decals (Gregg Cline?) Message-ID: Thanks Art for Gregg Cline's e-mail address! Mike ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hm pgID%3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) From steve_noreen at msn.com Sun Feb 22 17:55:58 2009 From: steve_noreen at msn.com (Steven Medved) Date: Sun Feb 22 17:56:07 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Was this plated after sale? In-Reply-To: <214554.23115.qm@web83003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <214554.23115.qm@web83003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: There are three things that make me think it was factory plated, the mahogany case and the Thomas A Edison plate under the carriage rod rail, and the horn. Please note: This is my opinion, hopefully more knowledgeable people will respond. Steve > Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 11:19:31 -0800 > From: john9ten@pacbell.net > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: [Phono-L] Was this plated after sale? > > There's an item on ebay, a mahogany Triumph with nickel bedplate. Was the ID plate also plated over, or was it applied after plating? I am trying to decide f this was plated after sale or palted at the factoy. > Ebay item number is 170304668674. I have known this dealer to be less than honest in the past. It probably won't sell with the $12,500 buy it now price. > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From lherault at bu.edu Sun Feb 22 20:33:03 2009 From: lherault at bu.edu (Ron L'Herault) Date: Sun Feb 22 21:33:23 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Phonographs in New Orleans Message-ID: <1BF98A7E75A544C9B0924E8FBAF62D34@ronlherault> What follows is a plea from a jazz researcher. Can anyone help him? Please respond to pgerler@verizon.net I suppose response to the list would be good too since it seems like an interesting subject. Ron L -----Original Message----- Greetings, Can anyone direct me to info about gramophone or phonograph use in New Orleans, first two decades? Who might the early jazz pioneers have listened to (if they could even get access)? We know that Armstrong was listening to McCormack, Galli-Curci, and Caruso by the late teens. What about earlier? What was available? Many thanks in advance! Peter Gerler Boston ------------------------------------ This list's archives, directory and more at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jazz-research/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jazz-research/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jazz-research/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:jazz-research-digest@yahoogroups.com mailto:jazz-research-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: jazz-research-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From ClockworkHome at aol.com Mon Feb 23 00:45:53 2009 From: ClockworkHome at aol.com (ClockworkHome@aol.com) Date: Mon Feb 23 00:51:06 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Re: Was this plated after sale? Message-ID: Special nickeled finish: Edison nickeled all of the parts except the halfnut, main mandrel shaft feedscrew, and backrod. From what my dimming eyes can see from the ad photos on my dying monitor, the machine appears to be correctly done. The Edison trademark script plate looks correct. The machine does appear from an electronic distance to be original. As for the patent plate and the trademark plate being 'as sent by the factory,' I tend to think they are. Most of the time when plates are removed and replaced the escutcheon pins get flattened on top or dinged in some way. To my eyes they look OK on my monitor. If the machine were plated after the sale, the trademark plate would have had to be obtained from Edison or created specially for the job to replace the gold stamped trademark. It appears to be original. Of note are the remaining lid packing bolsters to protect the machine during original shipment. That means the cabinet is in all likelihood original. The horn however is a toss up. The after-market horn is a nickeled version of the Babson 9 panel style horn that we see all the time as a painted and often flower decorated horn on eBay. It just does appear to be TOO shiny. The crane with it seems dull in comparison. Does this make me think of mixed parentage? Yes... In my humble opinion this machine would have had a woodgrained 12 panel Triumph straight horn. The machine at $50 plus special nickel finish at $25 and mahogany cabinet at $10 would have come to $85. At that price if one wanted to use a Babson style horn they would most likely have chosen at least the 10 or 11 panel Babson or T&T Co horn to be commensurate with the machine. I would like to have had a photo of the motor included in the listing. Often a view of the motor and underside of the bedplate can be most telling. Nothing can take the place of personal inspection on a machine from a practiced eye. For one of this rarity and stratospheric price that should be a must do task. Hope my shared opinion helps. Declared value less than 2 cents... Regards to All, Al Please ignore AOL garbage ads attached below. **************Get a jump start on your taxes. Find a tax professional in your neighborhood today. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=Tax+Return+Preparation+%26+Filing&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000004) From andersun at tampabay.rr.com Mon Feb 23 12:49:59 2009 From: andersun at tampabay.rr.com (Steve Andersen) Date: Mon Feb 23 12:58:36 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Phonographs in New Orleans In-Reply-To: <1BF98A7E75A544C9B0924E8FBAF62D34@ronlherault> References: <1BF98A7E75A544C9B0924E8FBAF62D34@ronlherault> Message-ID: <6EBC4EE4-4530-4A9A-AAD4-4ED7EB0ACA51@tampabay.rr.com> Here was my response to Peter...... Peter, Here is an Edison Home Phonograph. This type was sold between 1898 and 1899. This exact one was sold in New Orleans by the National Automatic Fire Alarm Co of Louisiana on Gravier St. If you look at view 2 of my website linked below, you can see the dealer tag. This phonograph would play the earlier brown wax 2 minute cylinders and have an all brass horn. http://www.theedisonshop.com/CESHome-A-Front.html Steve Andersen Andersun Graphics Designnprint On Feb 22, 2009, at 11:33 PM, Ron L'Herault wrote: > What follows is a plea from a jazz researcher. Can anyone help > him? Please > respond to pgerler@verizon.net > I suppose response to the list would be good too since it seems like > an > interesting subject. > > Ron L > > -----Original Message----- > Greetings, > > Can anyone direct me to info about gramophone or phonograph use in New > Orleans, first two decades? Who might the early jazz pioneers have > listened > to (if they could even get access)? We know that Armstrong was > listening to > McCormack, Galli-Curci, and Caruso by the late teens. What about > earlier? > What was available? > > Many thanks in advance! > > Peter Gerler > Boston > > > ------------------------------------ > > This list's archives, directory and more at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jazz-research/Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jazz-research/ > > <*> Your email settings: > Individual Email | Traditional > > <*> To change settings online go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jazz-research/join > (Yahoo! ID required) > > <*> To change settings via email: > mailto:jazz-research-digest@yahoogroups.com > mailto:jazz-research-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > jazz-research-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From johnws at toast.net Mon Feb 23 13:22:19 2009 From: johnws at toast.net (John SHEETS) Date: Mon Feb 23 13:22:26 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Phonographs in New Orleans In-Reply-To: <1BF98A7E75A544C9B0924E8FBAF62D34@ronlherault> References: <1BF98A7E75A544C9B0924E8FBAF62D34@ronlherault> Message-ID: <3333d57d0902231322x7a1e8015g3f259c726f2f09d8@mail.gmail.com> I wonder if the photographs of E J Bellocq might show a phonograph in a whorehouse interior? Not exactly what you are asking for, but there is a compilation of the photographs... Storyville portraits; photographs from the New Orleans red-light district, circa 1912 [by] E. J. Bellocq. Reproduced from prints made by Lee Friedlander. Pref. by Lee Friedlander. Edited by John Szarkowski On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 8:33 PM, Ron L'Herault wrote: > What follows is a plea from a jazz researcher. Can anyone help him? > Please > respond to pgerler@verizon.net > I suppose response to the list would be good too since it seems like an > interesting subject. > > Ron L > > -----Original Message----- > Greetings, > > Can anyone direct me to info about gramophone or phonograph use in New > Orleans, first two decades? Who might the early jazz pioneers have listened > to (if they could even get access)? We know that Armstrong was listening to > McCormack, Galli-Curci, and Caruso by the late teens. What about earlier? > What was available? > > Many thanks in advance! > > Peter Gerler > Boston > > > ------------------------------------ > > This list's archives, directory and more at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jazz-research/Yahoo! 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From wilenzick at bellsouth.net Mon Feb 23 17:06:34 2009 From: wilenzick at bellsouth.net (Raymond Wilenzick) Date: Mon Feb 23 17:06:37 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Phonographs in New Orleans References: <1BF98A7E75A544C9B0924E8FBAF62D34@ronlherault> <3333d57d0902231322x7a1e8015g3f259c726f2f09d8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001001c9961c$23f613f0$6401a8c0@Wilenzick> I believe much information on the early jazz pioneers' musical interests, as well as phonograph use in New Orleans during the early years of the twentieth century could be found in the Jazz Archives at the Howard Tilton Memorial Library of Tulane University in New Orleans. As a former resident of New Orleans, I have been there on several occasions and it is a wonderful collection. Ray Wilenzick ----- Original Message ----- From: "John SHEETS" To: "Antique Phonograph List" Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phonographs in New Orleans >I wonder if the photographs of E J Bellocq might show a phonograph in a > whorehouse interior? Not exactly what you are asking for, but there is a > compilation of the photographs... > > Storyville portraits; photographs from the New Orleans red-light district, > circa 1912 [by] E. J. Bellocq. Reproduced from prints made by Lee > Friedlander. Pref. by Lee Friedlander. Edited by John Szarkowski > > > On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 8:33 PM, Ron L'Herault wrote: > >> What follows is a plea from a jazz researcher. Can anyone help him? >> Please >> respond to pgerler@verizon.net >> I suppose response to the list would be good too since it seems like an >> interesting subject. >> >> Ron L >> >> -----Original Message----- >> Greetings, >> >> Can anyone direct me to info about gramophone or phonograph use in New >> Orleans, first two decades? Who might the early jazz pioneers have >> listened >> to (if they could even get access)? We know that Armstrong was listening >> to >> McCormack, Galli-Curci, and Caruso by the late teens. What about earlier? >> What was available? >> >> Many thanks in advance! >> >> Peter Gerler >> Boston >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> This list's archives, directory and more at >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jazz-research/Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jazz-research/ >> >> <*> Your email settings: >> Individual Email | Traditional >> >> <*> To change settings online go to: >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jazz-research/join >> (Yahoo! ID required) >> >> <*> To change settings via email: >> mailto:jazz-research-digest@yahoogroups.com >> mailto:jazz-research-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com >> >> <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >> jazz-research-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> >> <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: >> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> >> > > > -- > John S. > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From lherault at bu.edu Tue Feb 24 05:59:37 2009 From: lherault at bu.edu (Ron L) Date: Tue Feb 24 06:00:12 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Grafonola in the classroom Message-ID: <001801c99688$21745300$79d6299b@ad.bu.edu> A member of the 78 list turned this up. It is great! My first encounter with an antique phono was as a first grader in 1952 or so. It was a Grafonola, which I have owned since 1961. http://tinyurl.com/b57esr Ron L From harveykravitz at yahoo.com Tue Feb 24 11:47:15 2009 From: harveykravitz at yahoo.com (harvey kravitz) Date: Tue Feb 24 11:47:23 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Grafonola in the classroom In-Reply-To: <001801c99688$21745300$79d6299b@ad.bu.edu> Message-ID: <857552.4486.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> That was awesome!!. In my years of collecting, I have seen a lot of Victor advertising in the educational dept. For some reason, Columbia literature is scarce. Does anybody know why? Harvey Kravitz --- On Tue, 2/24/09, Ron L wrote: From: Ron L Subject: [Phono-L] Grafonola in the classroom To: "'Antique Phonograph List'" , phonolist@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 5:59 AM A member of the 78 list turned this up. It is great! My first encounter with an antique phono was as a first grader in 1952 or so. It was a Grafonola, which I have owned since 1961. http://tinyurl.com/b57esr Ron L _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From msprinzen at juno.com Thu Feb 26 15:25:31 2009 From: msprinzen at juno.com (msprinzen@juno.com) Date: Thu Feb 26 17:16:36 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Grafonola in the classroom Message-ID: <20090226.182531.16156.3@webmail20.dca.untd.com> And notice that on p. 6 the little boy is reading a Bubble Book and handing the little girl a record from it to play! -- "Ron L" wrote: A member of the 78 list turned this up. It is great! My first encounter with an antique phono was as a first grader in 1952 or so. It was a Grafonola, which I have owned since 1961. http://tinyurl.com/b57esr Ron L _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ____________________________________________________________ Digital Photography - Click Now. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTDvmPgyufzCTw7sBvbDT0lsz1QFjX92YowX8mGGnyZ8cE2F4lfmww/ From slowpost at clear.net.nz Fri Feb 27 02:13:55 2009 From: slowpost at clear.net.nz (Mark Dawson) Date: Fri Feb 27 02:14:09 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Columbia parts wanted Message-ID: <002b01c998c4$19f9e7f0$0201a8c0@D69S8J1S> Hi all, I am looking for the complete needle bar for my columbia sterling, BI. The one that you push to realise the needle. Mine has broken at the bottom. Is this a common problem, or has simply, the metal become brittle over the years? Plus the nut/screw on the belt drive pulley end of a Columbia BF. Mine has stripped its thread, , left hand thread. Cheers Mark Dawson slowpost@clear.net.nz . From victrola at triton.net Fri Feb 27 04:56:20 2009 From: victrola at triton.net (George) Date: Fri Feb 27 05:00:47 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Columbia parts wanted References: <002b01c998c4$19f9e7f0$0201a8c0@D69S8J1S> Message-ID: <59E13DE759134D55BDA10FA2285BDE73@VALUEDCB7D4C82> Contact me off list Mark, I should be able to help with both items. Thank you, Great Lakes Antique Phonographs George Vollema ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Dawson To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 5:13 AM Subject: [Phono-L] Columbia parts wanted Hi all, I am looking for the complete needle bar for my columbia sterling, BI. The one that you push to realise the needle. Mine has broken at the bottom. Is this a common problem, or has simply, the metal become brittle over the years? Plus the nut/screw on the belt drive pulley end of a Columbia BF. Mine has stripped its thread, , left hand thread. Cheers Mark Dawson slowpost@clear.net.nz . _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From jay.horenstein at gmail.com Fri Feb 27 11:41:51 2009 From: jay.horenstein at gmail.com (Jay Horenstein) Date: Fri Feb 27 11:42:06 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] phono on ebay Message-ID: <49a84206.0b97600a.1a42.648b@mx.google.com> Can anyone please tell me if the HMV Orthophinic model 203 listed on ebay is anything special? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.4/1976 - Release Date: 2/27/2009 1:27 PM From edisone1 at verizon.net Fri Feb 27 12:03:11 2009 From: edisone1 at verizon.net (DanKj) Date: Fri Feb 27 13:03:47 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] phono on ebay References: <49a84206.0b97600a.1a42.648b@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <7A6FFC2F083C414DA68CB8B8FB9F128A@New> http://cgi.ebay.com/PHONOGRAPH-GRAMOPHONE-HIS-MASTER-VOICE-MODEL-203_W0QQitemZ280314618257 Maybe he's hoping for a Japanese collector who still has money to burn? I wonder if the big cat comes with it ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay Horenstein" To: Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 2:41 PM Subject: [Phono-L] phono on ebay > Can anyone please tell me if the HMV Orthophinic model 203 listed on ebay is > anything special? From steve_noreen at msn.com Fri Feb 27 13:35:02 2009 From: steve_noreen at msn.com (Steven Medved) Date: Fri Feb 27 13:35:07 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] phono on ebay In-Reply-To: <7A6FFC2F083C414DA68CB8B8FB9F128A@New> References: <49a84206.0b97600a.1a42.648b@mx.google.com> <7A6FFC2F083C414DA68CB8B8FB9F128A@New> Message-ID: Hi Dan, How about this one? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=320344859582 Steve > From: edisone1@verizon.net > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] phono on ebay > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:03:11 -0500 > > http://cgi.ebay.com/PHONOGRAPH-GRAMOPHONE-HIS-MASTER-VOICE-MODEL-203_W0QQitemZ280314618257 > > Maybe he's hoping for a Japanese collector who still has money to burn? > > I wonder if the big cat comes with it > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jay Horenstein" > To: > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 2:41 PM > Subject: [Phono-L] phono on ebay > > > > Can anyone please tell me if the HMV Orthophinic model 203 listed on ebay is > > anything special? > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From bruce78rpm at comcast.net Fri Feb 27 13:42:27 2009 From: bruce78rpm at comcast.net (bruce78rpm@comcast.net) Date: Fri Feb 27 13:42:32 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] phono on ebay In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <917198281.2574131235770947719.JavaMail.root@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I have to think that this seller just forgot to put the decimal point between the two nines, there is no way any sane individual would think this record is worth this much money. It is a red star label to boot, which means it was expected to be a poor seller, and could not be returned for credit if ordered by a Dealer. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Medved" To: "Phono-l" Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 4:35:02 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [Phono-L] phono on ebay Hi Dan, How about this one? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=320344859582 Steve > From: edisone1@verizon.net > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] phono on ebay > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:03:11 -0500 > > http://cgi.ebay.com/PHONOGRAPH-GRAMOPHONE-HIS-MASTER-VOICE-MODEL-203_W0QQitemZ280314618257 > > Maybe he's hoping for a Japanese collector who still has money to burn? > > I wonder if the big cat comes with it > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jay Horenstein" > To: > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 2:41 PM > Subject: [Phono-L] phono on ebay > > > > Can anyone please tell me if the HMV Orthophinic model 203 listed on ebay is > > anything special? > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From klinger at modex.com Fri Feb 27 19:06:07 2009 From: klinger at modex.com (Bill Klinger) Date: Fri Feb 27 19:06:15 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] ARSC Membership 2009 Message-ID: <9B6DA8001B724AE7A8BDF8B0D018D179@billqbszr49l7m> The Outreach Committee of the Association for Recorded Sound Collections (ARSC) posts the following message. 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Anna-Maria Manuel ARSC Outreach Committee Chair From majesticrecord at snet.net Sat Feb 28 08:54:44 2009 From: majesticrecord at snet.net (Glenn Longwell) Date: Sat Feb 28 08:54:52 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] phono on ebay References: <49a84206.0b97600a.1a42.648b@mx.google.com> <7A6FFC2F083C414DA68CB8B8FB9F128A@New> Message-ID: <42807.90869.qm@web83709.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I just replied to an ad in the paper yesterday for Edison records with the usual rare statement for $450. So I called wondering how many hundred there were for that price. There were 5 records. I dug a little deeper but nothing special. The guy was trying to tell me how old they were and they were a deal "at less than $100 each." I tried to explain they were fairly common, I had hundreds of them and they were probably only worth a few dollars each but he got mad and hung up on me. ________________________________ From: Steven Medved To: Phono-l Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 4:35:02 PM Subject: RE: [Phono-L] phono on ebay Hi Dan, How about this one? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=320344859582 Steve > From: edisone1@verizon.net > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] phono on ebay > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:03:11 -0500 > > http://cgi.ebay.com/PHONOGRAPH-GRAMOPHONE-HIS-MASTER-VOICE-MODEL-203_W0QQitemZ280314618257 > > Maybe he's hoping for a Japanese collector who still has money to burn? > > I wonder if the big cat comes with it > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jay Horenstein" > To: > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 2:41 PM > Subject: [Phono-L] phono on ebay > > > > Can anyone please tell me if the HMV Orthophinic model 203 listed on ebay is > > anything special? > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From Kuglarb at wmconnect.com Sat Feb 28 17:32:33 2009 From: Kuglarb at wmconnect.com (Kuglarb@wmconnect.com) Date: Sat Feb 28 17:32:44 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] phono on ebay Message-ID: It is the same mentality of people that say in their ebay ad: This fine and rare phonograph still has the original needle, and it is still in good shape!@#@ There are so many people out there that are in it to turn a quick sale. Anyone in this hobby that wants to learn and become knowledgeable do not hang up or walk away from someone trying to help them out. Keep on smiling and keep the speed limit at 78...rpms, that is! Brantley Williston, S.C. From john9ten at pacbell.net Sat Feb 28 22:27:45 2009 From: john9ten at pacbell.net (john robles) Date: Sat Feb 28 22:27:51 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] phono on ebay In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <419680.25368.qm@web83004.mail.mud.yahoo.com> There was one on there recently that had and I quote: "ten needles (lifetime supply)". They must have been those needles that play 12,000 records without changing... JohnRobles --- On Sat, 2/28/09, Kuglarb@wmconnect.com wrote: > From: Kuglarb@wmconnect.com > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] phono on ebay > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Date: Saturday, February 28, 2009, 5:32 PM > It is the same mentality of people that say in their ebay > ad: > > This fine and rare phonograph still has the original > needle, and it is still > in good shape!@#@ > > There are so many people out there that are in it to turn a > quick sale. > Anyone in this hobby that wants to learn and become > knowledgeable do not hang up > or walk away from someone trying to help them out. > > Keep on smiling and keep the speed limit at 78...rpms, that > is! > > Brantley > Williston, S.C. > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org