[Phono-L] eBay

Fri Nov 14 18:51:22 PST 2008

I have been using ebay for a number of years and I have watched the fees climb for the sellers to the point that they have lost many of the dealers that used to be on this website.
Now that they are forcing them to use Paypal I expect them to lose another 25% of the current sellers. Being an ex-flea market person the profit is very little on this type of a system if your over-head increases and you can't pass it on to the individual that is buying the item then you go out of business.
I have never used another site for bidding on records and I am also new at collecting records does anybody know another auction website where I can start looking for the older 78's and misc items from the Victorian period?

Thank you
Bill Buchanan

--- On Fri, 11/14/08, Mike Stitt <smstitt at gmail.com> wrote:
From: Mike Stitt <smstitt at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] eBay
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Date: Friday, November 14, 2008, 7:51 PM

I can't find that report nor has eBay best I can tell in their boards
indicate the rational.

On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Rich <rich-mail at octoxol.com> wrote:

> For those that are real curious as to why eBay has decided that all
> transactions will be through PayPal, its real simple.  How much money is
> changing hands through eBay every year? Now, how much sales tax and income
> tax is collected from all this $$$?  Our illegitimate uncle in Washington
> and various state capitols wants their cut of the $$ and the feds have
> issued regulations that say that if eBay does not report all of these
> transactions they will be liable for all of the tax due.  This has been
> reported in the MSM by the way.  Blame the group responsible, its not
eBay.
>
>
> Daniel Melvin wrote:
>
>> I don't sell on ebay but I have bought a number of things on ebay
and as a
>> buyer I do prefer using PayPal over all other methods of payment.
Mostly
>> is
>> it easy and it costs me nothing to do. And, the buyer never knows my
>> credit
>> card or bank acocunt information. If I weren't so lazy I could
send
>> checks,
>> but it costs 42 cents each and I'm lazy. I just don't like
doing it. And,
>> I
>> don't like strangers having my checking account routing and
account
>> numbers.
>>
>> I do understand why so many sellers resist it especially when it's
made
>> mandatory by ebay. It's a bit kind of expensive on the sellers
side.
>> However, on the other hand I usually won't look at an ebay auction
that
>> does
>> not take PayPal. So, I think using PayPal likely ups the audience at
least
>> when dealing with people like me. I guess all this is a mute point at
>> least
>> for eaby. If you notice now, all sellers have to take PayPal now. The
>> payment options don't even seem to appear any longer.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Mike Stitt <smstitt at gmail.com>
wrote:
>>
>>  Well on the other hand if you list your Phonos on their adult (porn?)
>>> side
>>> you can take a MO.
>>> I'm afraid this P.P only will have be detrimental for
collectors. Many
>>> folks
>>> may use different venue's such as this to sell.  At the end of
the day it
>>> should be* your* choice as a buyer or seller to paid anyway you
want....
>>> I'd love to see data six months from now on how many have
registered as
>>> new
>>> and how many have de-registered. Data over say three years. Any
bets?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Douglas Houston
<cdh041 at earthlink.net
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Purely and simply, eBay has gotten too big for their breeches.
PayPal is
>>>> their banking arm, and they want more and more cut from the
sales. It
>>>> may
>>>> be that there is buyer protection if PP is used, but
considering eBay's
>>>> policy of: "If you're screwed, tough gazotz",
the notion of any extended
>>>> comfort for the buyer is purely a joke. I've been swindled
by a seller,
>>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>>> eBay's "Fair Trade" is the sham that one would
expect it to be.  Whether
>>>>
>>> or
>>>
>>>> not, their policy will damage them, remains to be seen. They
probably
>>>> figure that they have a strong enough PayPal base to maintain
sales
>>>>
>>> levels
>>>
>>>> strongly enough to thumb their snoots at those of us who
don't use Pay
>>>>
>>> Pal.
>>>
>>>> There may be more noses to thumb at them than they expect.
Time will
>>>> tell
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  [Original Message]
>>>>> From: Mike Stitt <smstitt at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
>>>>> Date: 11/14/2008 1:58:25 PM
>>>>> Subject: [Phono-L] eBay
>>>>>
>>>>> As eBay is always a hot topic what about the new policy at
eBay.
>>>>> I'm not an eBay collector but it does have a useful
purpose. It seems
>>>>>
>>>> that
>>>>
>>>>> buyers and sellers must use Paypal. The best I can tell as
I write this
>>>>>
>>>> is
>>>>
>>>>> eBay does not release the seller address unless through
Paypal...!!  At
>>>>> least I couldn't find it. I had to email the seller
(he said no Paypal
>>>>>
>>>> in
>>>
>>>> his description).
>>>>> Starting in January as I understand it any mention of
cash, money order
>>>>>
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>>> the like will result in the listing being pulled. Starting
in 2012
>>>>>
>>>> Paypal
>>>
>>>> will report to IRS transactions over $20k in total or 200 or
more
>>>>> transactions per year.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is from their boards. I have a hard time finding much
from eBay so
>>>>>
>>>> I
>>>
>>>> may stand corrected.
>>>>>
>>>>> The question is how will eBay grow and attract more
buyers? Will new
>>>>>
>>>> people
>>>>
>>>>> registering go through the Paypal drill? I wouldn't. 
Many will not.
>>>>> Of those already registered how many do not do have
Paypal. After years
>>>>>
>>>> of
>>>>
>>>>> pushing and still not giving their bank account numbers to
eBay will
>>>>>
>>>> they?
>>>>
>>>>> How many of those will walk? What is the arrogance of this
in a
>>>>>
>>>> declining
>>>
>>>> economy ?
>>>>> Thoughts. I have one. As seen this AM, sell on phono-l.
Use photobucket
>>>>>
>>>> or
>>>>
>>>>> Picasa to post pictures. Picasa will host them and just
put the link in
>>>>>
>>>> your
>>>>
>>>>> email.
>>>>>
>>>>> Loran and I talked about this new eBay policy last night.
Looking for
>>>>>
>>>> more
>>>>
>>>>> thoughts.
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> aka Oldcranky
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