In a message dated 3/22/2008 11:41:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, steve_noreen at msn.com writes: I believe some Lamberts have a liner. I have three black Lamberts. One says Edison Bell Indestructible on the bottom, one is and IPLS French lesson, the third is in a red and black box that says The New Lambert and it has a liner. It is 5077 Fol the Rol Lol by H Bluff and has what appears to be a hard plastic liner. All have raised letters. I have an Indestructible with the metal bands, 653 that also has raised etters. ================ The Lamberts that have a ('cardboard') "liner" are from England. Their boxes were the red and black design with elephant. American Lamberts (no matter what color) are truly hollow, except for the last (1905) with their plaster interiors. The raised-letter rims of Albany Inds are the very first from ca ("pre") Nov 1907. They mimic that style from the last US Lamberts, although the "direction/orientation" of rim-imprinting is different. The interior metals rings were patented by Philpot & Matthews. Allen **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030000000001)