[Phono-L] Some questions about Orthophonicreproducers--restorability, reproductions

Greg Bogantz gbogantz1 at charter.net
Thu Jan 31 11:13:44 PST 2008


    The magnetized needle bar pivot pins was a bad idea.  Looked good on 
paper - didn't work worth a damn in practice.  The idea was that the 
magnetization was supposed to draw the balls into the tapered race area and 
keep them tight against the races.  In reality, there isn't enough magnetic 
force to realign the balls when they get out of alignment which WILL happen 
if the needle bar is hit or shocked in some way.  So then the bearing gets 
loose and the reproducer buzzes and rattles.  Then also, guess what happens 
when you have a source of ground, powderized steel adjacent to a magnetized 
bearing?  Hmmmm??  Yep, steel powder quickly clogs up the bearing, binds it 
up and stays there.  Bottom line - dumb idea.  Victor figured this out 
probably after they had to rebuild a number of these from field complaints. 
That's why they quit doing it.  My advice is to DEmagnetize your ortho pivot 
pins and assemble the bearing as I've indicated earlier.  Use an elastomeric 
material to make a small packing washer to go between the balls and the 
outside bearing cap.  Works like a charm.  Just don't use latex or gum 
rubber or you'll be redoing it in six months, just like when you use latex 
or gum rubber in ANYTHING.

Greg Bogantz



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob" <rvuill at comcast.net>
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Some questions about 
Orthophonicreproducers--restorability, reproductions


> Hi Walt,
>    First let me say that I have seen a number of the reproduction brass 
> orthophonic reproducers that you make on Ron Rosco's phonographs and they 
> are truly amazing.  I just read the write-up on the suitcase orthophonic 
> reproducer that you currently have on eBay and note that you are able to 
> remagnitize the needle bar fulcrum and am wondering how you do this.  Over 
> the years I have owned a number of orthophonic phonographs and have had to 
> replace the ball bearings several times.  Years ago I tried to remagnitize 
> the bar with no success.  I left it connected to strong  magnets for 
> months and it wouldn't magnetize.  I even bought a tool for magnetizing 
> and demagnetizing tools and it wouldn't work.  As a last resort I tried to 
> magnetize the ball bearings.  This doesn't work either.  I assume it's 
> because they are round and there is no way to create poles on them like a 
> bar magnet.  Unless it's a trade secret, what's the trick to magnetizing 
> the needle bar fulcrum.
> RMV
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Walt" <waltsommers at comcast.net>
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> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 8:03 PM
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> reproducers--restorability, reproductions
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