And that would be considered the bargain of the year. I have seen lots of el-crapo Operas go for several thousand more than that at Union. John Maeder wrote: > All original, unmolested, close to mint should be a minimum of US$7K in my humble opinion. John M. > >> From: marioaf at optusnet.com.au >> To: phono-l at oldcrank.org >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] re Opera gone >> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 09:29:12 +1100 >> >> Any guesstimates on what this example would have gone for? I was the high >> bidder for most of it and including when it was cancelled and was going to >> of course bput a last second bid in... >> >> Mario >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Peter Fraser" <pjfraser at alamedanet.net> >> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org> >> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 3:34 AM >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] re Opera gone >> >> >>> this guy's obviously a rookie at ebay, and not a phono collector. he's >>> also local to me. quite frankly, this sort of thing is the only way >>> somebody like me could afford to acquire an Opera...to contact him >>> directly and swoop in and pull it out from under the auction. fair? >>> perhaps not...but if he's going to dip into the marketplace without doing >>> homework, which is soooo easy to do these days - and we know he has a >>> computer and we know he knows what ebay is - well, maybe he deserves to >>> sell at less than optimal price. no need to pity him. >>> >>> i saw this auction early, and asked offline for his phone number in the >>> hopes i could inspect, and maybe dazzle him with cash and grab it for >>> less than $3000. by the time he got back to me it was already up past >>> $4k so i cancelled the visit. but it sat around that price all week and >>> so he got cold feet and probably took $5k or so from someone like me but >>> with deeper pockets. >>> >>> nothing wrong or immoral about any of this, in my opinion - it's his to >>> sell at whatever price he wants, ebay auction notwithstanding. >>> >>> On Jan 5, 2008, at 7:43 AM, George Glastris wrote: >>> >>>> I agree it is totally wrong and very stupid. >>>> I sell a lot on Ebay, many things that I have no idea of their value. >>>> I'm always getting offers to sell offline. I've been offered many >>>> hundreds even thousands for items which I start at $9.99 and no reserve. >>>> I've never accepted them and have never regreted it as the final bid is >>>> always over the offer. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "BruceY" <Bruce78rpm at comcast.net> >>>> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org> >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 9:09 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] re Opera gone >>>> >>>> >>>>> Can he really do that without some kind of penalty or banishment from >>>>> Ebay? Seems sort of underhanded. Can you imagine putting an item on >>>>> consignment at a local gallery, and then going to the auction to view >>>>> it. After the bidding starts someone who recognizes the item as yours, >>>>> finds you in the crowd and offers you $2000.00 for the item if you >>>>> agree to pull the item right now . How possitively sleezy and unfair >>>>> that would be. What makes this any different? >>>>> >>>>> Bruce >>>>> >>>>> Bruce >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich" <rich-mail at octoxol.com> >>>>> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 9:52 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] re Opera gone >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Well, usually when that happens, the seller has received an under the >>>>>> table offer that is very attractive and accepts it. With FB showing >>>>>> more of a seller than a buyer and a low rate of eBay selling that >>>>>> would b my guess. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mario Frazzetto wrote: >>>>>>> So I wonder what happened to this!!! >>>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200187276205 >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Phono-L mailing list >>>>>>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Phono-L mailing list >>>>>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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