All original, unmolested, close to mint should be a minimum of US$7K in my humble opinion. John M. > From: marioaf at optusnet.com.au > To: phono-l at oldcrank.org > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] re Opera gone > Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 09:29:12 +1100 > > Any guesstimates on what this example would have gone for? I was the high > bidder for most of it and including when it was cancelled and was going to > of course bput a last second bid in... > > Mario > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Fraser" <pjfraser at alamedanet.net> > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org> > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 3:34 AM > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] re Opera gone > > > > this guy's obviously a rookie at ebay, and not a phono collector. he's > > also local to me. quite frankly, this sort of thing is the only way > > somebody like me could afford to acquire an Opera...to contact him > > directly and swoop in and pull it out from under the auction. fair? > > perhaps not...but if he's going to dip into the marketplace without doing > > homework, which is soooo easy to do these days - and we know he has a > > computer and we know he knows what ebay is - well, maybe he deserves to > > sell at less than optimal price. no need to pity him. > > > > i saw this auction early, and asked offline for his phone number in the > > hopes i could inspect, and maybe dazzle him with cash and grab it for > > less than $3000. by the time he got back to me it was already up past > > $4k so i cancelled the visit. but it sat around that price all week and > > so he got cold feet and probably took $5k or so from someone like me but > > with deeper pockets. > > > > nothing wrong or immoral about any of this, in my opinion - it's his to > > sell at whatever price he wants, ebay auction notwithstanding. > > > > On Jan 5, 2008, at 7:43 AM, George Glastris wrote: > > > >> I agree it is totally wrong and very stupid. > >> I sell a lot on Ebay, many things that I have no idea of their value. > >> I'm always getting offers to sell offline. I've been offered many > >> hundreds even thousands for items which I start at $9.99 and no reserve. > >> I've never accepted them and have never regreted it as the final bid is > >> always over the offer. > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "BruceY" <Bruce78rpm at comcast.net> > >> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org> > >> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 9:09 AM > >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] re Opera gone > >> > >> > >>> Can he really do that without some kind of penalty or banishment from > >>> Ebay? Seems sort of underhanded. Can you imagine putting an item on > >>> consignment at a local gallery, and then going to the auction to view > >>> it. After the bidding starts someone who recognizes the item as yours, > >>> finds you in the crowd and offers you $2000.00 for the item if you > >>> agree to pull the item right now . How possitively sleezy and unfair > >>> that would be. What makes this any different? > >>> > >>> Bruce > >>> > >>> Bruce > >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich" <rich-mail at octoxol.com> > >>> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org> > >>> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 9:52 AM > >>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] re Opera gone > >>> > >>> > >>>> Well, usually when that happens, the seller has received an under the > >>>> table offer that is very attractive and accepts it. With FB showing > >>>> more of a seller than a buyer and a low rate of eBay selling that > >>>> would b my guess. > >>>> > >>>> Mario Frazzetto wrote: > >>>>> So I wonder what happened to this!!! > >>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200187276205 > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Phono-L mailing list > >>>>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Phono-L mailing list > >>>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. > >>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: > >>>> 269.17.13/1210 - Release Date: 1/5/2008 11:46 AM > >>>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Phono-L mailing list > >>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Phono-L mailing list > >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: > > 269.17.13/1209 - Release Date: 4/01/2008 12:05 PM > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org