Based on a quick look at the auction photos, I see it as a excellent candidate to clean up into a very nice Opera with original parts and finish, including decals. This could easily be an over $10,000 auction. If there were at least two bidders who really wanted the machine thee is no real telling where it would have closed at. Mario Frazzetto wrote: > Any guesstimates on what this example would have gone for? I was the > high bidder for most of it and including when it was cancelled and was > going to of course bput a last second bid in... > > Mario > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Fraser" <pjfraser at alamedanet.net> > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org> > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 3:34 AM > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] re Opera gone > > >> this guy's obviously a rookie at ebay, and not a phono collector. >> he's also local to me. quite frankly, this sort of thing is the only >> way somebody like me could afford to acquire an Opera...to contact him >> directly and swoop in and pull it out from under the auction. fair? >> perhaps not...but if he's going to dip into the marketplace without >> doing homework, which is soooo easy to do these days - and we know he >> has a computer and we know he knows what ebay is - well, maybe he >> deserves to sell at less than optimal price. no need to pity him. >> >> i saw this auction early, and asked offline for his phone number in >> the hopes i could inspect, and maybe dazzle him with cash and grab it >> for less than $3000. by the time he got back to me it was already up >> past $4k so i cancelled the visit. but it sat around that price all >> week and so he got cold feet and probably took $5k or so from someone >> like me but with deeper pockets. >> >> nothing wrong or immoral about any of this, in my opinion - it's his >> to sell at whatever price he wants, ebay auction notwithstanding. >> >> On Jan 5, 2008, at 7:43 AM, George Glastris wrote: >> >>> I agree it is totally wrong and very stupid. >>> I sell a lot on Ebay, many things that I have no idea of their >>> value. I'm always getting offers to sell offline. I've been offered >>> many hundreds even thousands for items which I start at $9.99 and no >>> reserve. I've never accepted them and have never regreted it as the >>> final bid is always over the offer. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "BruceY" <Bruce78rpm at comcast.net> >>> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org> >>> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 9:09 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] re Opera gone >>> >>> >>>> Can he really do that without some kind of penalty or banishment >>>> from Ebay? Seems sort of underhanded. Can you imagine putting an >>>> item on consignment at a local gallery, and then going to the >>>> auction to view it. After the bidding starts someone who recognizes >>>> the item as yours, finds you in the crowd and offers you $2000.00 >>>> for the item if you agree to pull the item right now . How >>>> possitively sleezy and unfair that would be. What makes this any >>>> different? >>>> >>>> Bruce >>>> >>>> Bruce >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich" <rich-mail at octoxol.com> >>>> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org> >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 9:52 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] re Opera gone >>>> >>>> >>>>> Well, usually when that happens, the seller has received an under >>>>> the table offer that is very attractive and accepts it. With FB >>>>> showing more of a seller than a buyer and a low rate of eBay >>>>> selling that would b my guess. >>>>> >>>>> Mario Frazzetto wrote: >>>>>> So I wonder what happened to this!!! >>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200187276205 >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Phono-L mailing list >>>>>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Phono-L mailing list >>>>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: >>>>> 269.17.13/1210 - Release Date: 1/5/2008 11:46 AM >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Phono-L mailing list >>>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Phono-L mailing list >>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: >> 269.17.13/1209 - Release Date: 4/01/2008 12:05 PM >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > >