Yes, I agree, but what we are talking about here is a legal contract that has been broken between Ebay and the Seller, and the person who breaks the contract knows that, and the collector urging him to sell to him and pull the goods off the ebay auction knows that is well. That is why to a certain extent, both are guitly of behavior that is not in any way shape or form on the up and up. Sure, I can see how it happens, but we live in society of "laws" not men (ever hear that one before?) where conduct in business matters have certain rules that have to be followed, and believe it or not that includes the selling of something that you may really, really, really, want, and must have, but for god sake if you want it, get in line and follow the law and the rules like the rest of us honest hard working souls who want that rare baby just as much as you do, but have the good sense to play ball by the rules!! ----- Original Message ----- From: <phonolist at mac.com> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] re Opera gone >A very well known collector frequently is able to talk an ebay seller into >accepting his offer and ending the auction. He has bought several >desirable items this way, always for much less that the final auction >price likely would have been (much less than I was planning to bid, in one >case). When I've mentioned it to him, he just chuckles. He feels it is >just part of the way the game is played. I don't agree, but as long as >there are some sellers who can be persuaded by a smooth talker, it will >continue to happen. > > > On Jan 5, 2008, at 6:52 AM, Rich wrote: > >> Well, usually when that happens, the seller has received an under the >> table offer that is very attractive and accepts it. With FB showing >> more of a seller than a buyer and a low rate of eBay selling that would >> b my guess. >> >> Mario Frazzetto wrote: >>> So I wonder what happened to this!!! >>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200187276205 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Phono-L mailing list >>> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: > 269.17.13/1210 - Release Date: 1/5/2008 11:46 AM >