Yahoo has no auction site. They used to, and in the beginnings of eBay, Yahoo's was substantially larger and more active than eBay's. Like Walt, I was a member of PayPal when they were www.x.com, which I joined because of all my eBaying. I will never understand how a company that has become so immensely successful with one method, however flawed, decides to suddenly go with another, completely different method. Nothing's perfect, but I hardly thought eBay was broken enough to warrant such substantial changes. But I'm sure eBay is acutely aware of the probable increase in income from sellers' fees when random bidders go deadbeat on high-dollar auctions and the items get relisted for more sellers' fees. Further, I've had ZERO luck with eBay "helping" when I've had deadbeat buyers OR sellers. Just like the TV studios and the WGA writers' strike -- ethics do not exist once a corporation grows to a certain size, if indeed they ever existed at all. And don't bother suing -- even if you win, you're tying up hundreds of thousands of dollars for at least 3 to 5 years. The cards are stacked against you, little guy. But maybe, just maybe, the dissent will forge a new business model and someone will start up an auction site that doesn't have all eBay's growing number of barbs, and until they become hugely successful and corrupted as well, we'll have a few good years with it. Ya never know. Best, Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich" <rich-mail at octoxol.com> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 11:14 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] OT - Ebay rebellion > Yahoo has an auction site. have not looked in a long time but I will take > a look in the AM. I am NOT a big fan of yahoo either, their business > ethics do not measure up in my estimation.