[Phono-L] Clarification of web photos relating to the "Official"Questionnaire

Andrew Baron andy at popyrus.com
Tue Jun 26 11:37:13 PDT 2007


Thanks Bruce.  When you have time.  I'll look forward to it.

Best,
Andy


On Jun 26, 2007, at 12:09 PM, bruce78rpm wrote:

> Certainly Andy, be happy to. Will contact you directly when I have  
> the scan ready to send.
>
> Bruce
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Baron" <andy at popyrus.com>
> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 6:39 PM
> Subject: [Phono-L] Clarification of web photos relating to the  
> "Official"Questionnaire
>
>
>> Hi Bruce (and all who are looking at the pictures):
>>
>> The horn, crank and reproducer that you see on that web page are  
>> from  a different source, a different machine.  (Not to make it  
>> confusing),  but they're there as part of the discussion about  
>> metal finishes,  unrelated to the A-250 thread.
>>
>> I have an original reproducer (2nd type, not first), in the  
>> lovely  black box, that I'm reasonaby certain is original to that  
>> box.  I has  the separate stylus bar mounting plate and is serial  
>> number 42392.   The box is fine inside, but outside it's pretty  
>> tired, and the label  on the bottom is nearly gone.  I can see a  
>> "707" on the bottom part,  but not much else.
>>
>> Bruce, would you be willing to make a photocopy or scan of that   
>> bottom label for me?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Andy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 25, 2007, at 1:29 PM, bruce78rpm wrote:
>>
>>> I am assuming, based on the photos that there was a hardware   
>>> variant as well with the A-250's, as my model has a gold plated   
>>> Diamond disc. reproducer and hardware, while the one in the  
>>> photos  is not, and is presumably the early issue. and how about  
>>> the horn?  The size is obviously the same on all 250's but what  
>>> about the  color? Mine is a very attractive sort of streaked  
>>> light and dark  mock wood grain on the inside of the large horn.  
>>> Were there any  other colors issued. Also how long did Edison  
>>> Offer the reproducer  in its own fancy spring loaded, black  
>>> leather box, with purple felt  lining, molded so that the  
>>> reproducer fits perfectly into it. On  the bottom of the box is  
>>> the Patent information with a date of  March 11, 1913. I was  
>>> fortunate that the party from which I  acquired my A-250 had  
>>> also  saved this unique Edison reproducer Box for all those  
>>> years. Oddly, they always used the machine to play standard 78rpm  
>>> records with a conversion tone arm and victor gold reproducer.  
>>> When I asked about the Edison reproducer, they seemed confused  
>>> but then said. "Oh, you must mean that odd looking thing  in the  
>>> black box over here. We have never used that"
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <msprinzen at juno.com>
>>> To: <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 2:13 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] "Official" Questionnaire for early Edison  
>>> discphonographs
>>>
>>>
>>> Funny... worked just fine for me, and I'm using a PC.
>>>
>>> -- "bruce78rpm" <bruce78rpm at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> I concur, I typed in the address as given, and it took me to Mac   
>>> where I
>>> entered the password, but it said that the user didn't exist or  
>>> something
>>> like that.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "john robles"   
>>> <john9ten at pacbell.net>
>>> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 11:43 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] "Official" Questionnaire for early Edison
>>> discphonographs
>>>
>>>
>>>> I can't get to that homepage..maybe it is because I have an  
>>>> evil  PC and the
>>>> page is supported by Mac..LOL
>>>>
>>>> bruce78rpm <bruce78rpm at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Baron"
>>>> To: "Antique Phonograph List"
>>>>
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 12:41 AM
>>>> Subject: [Phono-L] "Official" Questionnaire for early Edison disc
>>>> phonographs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To see early vs. late details, Refer to photos posted on: (type)
>>>> http:// (then:) homepage.mac.com/pjfraser/phono/PhotoAlbum233 (and
>>>> finally:) .html
>>>>
>>>> Directions from Peter Fraser on accessing these photos:
>>>> the password is "pook2e" (no quotes).
>>>>
>>>> For large-scale versions of the pix, use the slideshow button, or
>>>> single-click the individual shot in which you're interested.
>>>>
>>>> THE QUESTIONNAIRE:
>>>> 1) Model number: ( A-250):
>>>> 1a) Serial number: (SM-10248
>>>> 1b) Serial number stamped on bedplate, under platter, if different:
>>>> (_____ A1);
>>>> 2) Type of start/stop levers: Late - non adjustable stop
>>>> position);
>>>> 3) Bedplate corner detail: (Early / Late) ??; I can't enter the   
>>>> website
>>>> you
>>>> gave to see the diffences
>>>> 4) Number of pivoting oil hole covers on bedplate: (2);
>>>> 5) Tone modulator Present? (yes - vertical early design);
>>>> 6) Type of key escutcheon: (Without nail holes)
>>>> 7) Depth inside the upper groove that accommodates top of grill:
>>>> (1/4")
>>>> 7a) grill top & bottom
>>>> width 3/4" smooth?;
>>>> 7b) Thickness of fretwork portion of grill: (1/4)
>>>> 7c) Overall height of outer grill frame: (13 3/4)
>>>> 8) Louvres on cabinet ( no);
>>>> 9) Side veneer, number of sections per side: (1)
>>>> 10) Form 632 present? (yes)
>>>> 10a) Location of Form 632: (inside of back door)
>>>> 10b) Printer's date at bottom of Form 632: 4/3/14
>>>> 11) Latest patent date on dataplate: ( 3-11-13 )
>>>> 12 Other notes: (Any additional information of interest);
>>>> 13) Owner : Bruce R. Young
>>>>
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