[Phono-L] Edison Type H Reproducer and Echo

Ron L'Herault lherault at bu.edu
Fri Jul 7 14:13:44 PDT 2006


I'm pretty sure echo is either wear of record or wear of stylus.  Since you
have eliminated the worn stylus possibility, all that remains is the worn
record, especially if some do it and not others.  To confirm, try the worn
record on other 4 min. players. 

Ron L

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Behalf Of Silverman, Adam M.
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 3:42 PM
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Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Type H Reproducer and Echo

I recently rebuild a Model H 4 minute reproducer (new diaphragm, gaskets
and need).  This was my first attempt to do so.  On my Edison Standard,
some (but not all) 4 minute blue amberol cylinders sometimes echo.  It
seems to be certain cylinders and not others.  What would cause this
problem.  I thought rebuilding the reproducer would get rid of it.  Is
it likely a problem with the cylinders in question or the
machine/reproducer?

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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 13:51:39 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
From: John Sheets <johnws at jps.net>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Diamond disk rebuild
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Thanks much for the specific advice.  I will try this!
JS

-----Original Message-----
>From: Ron L'Herault <lherault at bu.edu>
>Sent: Jul 5, 2006 10:11 PM
>To: 'Antique Phonograph List' <phono-l at oldcrank.org>
>Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Diamond disk rebuild
>
>John, the friction  spring that slides under the motor board should 
>have a tiny bit of tension on it when the lift lever is up in the 
>playing position, and more tension when the lever is down.  To get the 
>right playing height, loosen the two square head screws at the top and 
>move the outer tube up or down so that the flat feed gear does not 
>touch the feed screw mechanism when the handle is down.  The feed screw

>should engage the flat feed "gear" by the time the handle is at the 
>half way point of travel.  The threaded part at the bottom is the 
>adjustment for playing height.  If you can't adjust it, your diaphragm 
>may be warped.  You can give the horn a bit of a downward bend to bring

>the reproducer closer to the record or you can put another layer of 
>felt between record and turntable as a stop gap measure.
>
>Ron L
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org 
>[mailto:phono-l-bounces at oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of John Sheets
>Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 2:47 PM
>To: phono-l at oldcrank.org
>Subject: [Phono-L] Diamond disk rebuild
>
>I wonder if list members with lots of DD experience could give me some 
>information?  I am restoring a Chippendale Console Diamond Disk (case 
>needed a new base, lots of delaminated veneer, etc.) and am perplexed 
>by the post that the horn and reproducer turn on.  Specifically, I am 
>not getting the proper distance between the bracket that holds the 
>horn, the finger that slides along the bottom of the motorboard (and is

>adjustable up and down) and the stud that fits into the bottom socket 
>that the whole thing turns on. I can adjust all of these, but don't get

>them to the point where the reproducer sits appropriately on the record

>surface. Judging from the (rather poor quality) photos in the manuals 
>and in the Frow book, there is maybe 1" between the spring steel finger

>and the bracket, but I can't set this and still have the lifting lever 
>work to move the reproducer up and down. (Is this understandable?) I 
>can also screw the stud at the bottom in or out, to lengthen the whole 
>po  st. I have studied the directions in the DD manual but still can't 
>get the distances correct I am afraid.  Any thoughts? Thanks in 
>advance-- John Sheets
>
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